At this point it really feels like it. Necrons even proposed using the 35% value in the original bug report.
I have a hard time believing that the people at Gaijin really believe that the whole 4 tons of added weight on the SEPv3 was for the turret composite only.
It just makss no sense in so many ways.
I mean, the Merkava platforms ingame are filled with “heavy air” so I wouldn’t count on it.
what do you mean turret composite
clearly the US army just welded 150mm RHA blocks to the front of the turret
fr, doesnt even read it properly and then wants more and more information that we just cannot have to give gaijin.
they also saved two tonnes with fibre optic cables, so even more weight was added to the tank lol
You mean the armour that any German main would tell you that it doesn’t work and is incredibly bigger and has gaps where there’s literally 30mm of armour with the muss APS not working in years
Adding a CR2 turret basket too despite video and photographic evidence. The rational is it could jam the turret…Aye sure mate and Ivans splattered remains could jam the autoloader mechanism on his T-90M
The chances though are slim
im not saying its too strong, im saying gaijin added it without the numbers, thickness materials etc
also could just go with the 50% increase in the same volume like the M1A1 to M1A2 turret face difference
and remember that is 50% increase without DU because the armor value used was from an early 90s export M1A2
And I’m telling you it’s completely wrong and all guess work lmao just like 2a7V armour still relying on sources from 1990 with the swedish trials. And said they don’t think the armour could be better IN 20 YEARS
which is exactly what im saying, pointing out gaijins clear double standard for american armour, which they wont even try to model and keep it the same as the first ever abrams
they could but they will most likely say something like “we dont know what exactly changed”
Interesting the US Military spends around $895 billion into the military just to wield 150mm of RHA on turret cheeks… Gaijin logic I guess
45 SEPv3 were ordered to be made from older M1’s in 2017 with the option for 60 more in 2018
link to above pdf
https://sam.gov/workspace/contract/opp/ce98797f4ed5ef4f6773d5422b441e47/view
NGA armor being purchase in the Feb 2018 justification book they order 45 armor kits in 2016 for 2017 installation
Feb 2018 justification book
just adding more from justification books
this is literally all we can give them
I would like to see LWS on both SEPV1 and SEPV3
Denied cause “probably from an encyclopedia” lmao
with the entire reasoning being that the source has a lot of pages
This guy’s 100% “that one” mod lol
The same one caught showing heavy bias toward Russian vehicle and is the reason why mod name is hidden now. Disgraceful behavior and should have been fired on the spot, but no, gaijin protected him.
God knows how many other shitty Dev is behind the scene but clearly a lot
You should have a mod show the document procured to give the turret numbers, so you can see if an actual number was used
@Smin1080p_WT While we’re there, using the documents posted by Gaijin themselves in December 2023 in the Abrams hull armor devblog:
The M1A1->M1A1HA increases from 65.1 tons to 67.7 tons when the only significant change was the addition of the turret depleted uranium insert, a 2.6 ton increase?
YET the SEP v2 to V3 goes from 69.3 tons to 73.6 tons, a 4.3 ton increase.
It makes no mathematical sense that a turret steel add-on(What we have in-game) alone would add so much more weight than the DU insert. The numbers simply don’t add up in any shape or form resembling material density weight. It only further confirms that hull armor was increased if the tank is to reach a 4.3 ton weight increase.
This is such a bad look for Gaijin because the discrepancy is so obvious, contradicts primary sources, and, more importantly, is so easy to correct.
