It’s not necessary for the game to have a vehicle that’s functional and operational? If the Cheonma 2 was found to have no armor today and Gaijin added it tomorrow with 700mm of frontal KE protection, in what way would it be a tangible thing to balance?
It’s more than necessary for a game that derives all information about its combat vehicles from the vehicles themselves.
If a combat vehicle isn’t fit for combat, what does it make it? It’s about as far-out as calling for the IPM1 to receive Trophy because the M1A2 did.
Once again with people deflecting from the conversation… I couldn’t care less about the Yak-141, for the 6th time now in this thread, I would be more than happy if those vehicles were removed and replaced with more in-depth variants of existing vehicles. I would rather have a MiG-29 9-12 ISRP directly under a 9-13 with functional EW, maybe a 9-18 with 27ER capability, the current 9-19 with the current systems it has now, and many more over the Yak-141.
I hate it as much as the idea of a Convair 200 being introduced. Don’t bring it up again as an attempt to redirect the topic.
It passed field trials and was discontinued in development due to diminishing returns in cost to effectiveness. There were plenty of other 152mm premises that were on the shelf for later development, and with the breakup of the Soviet Union and the loss of Kazakhstan and Ukraine, Russia no longer had monetary support for 1-off modifications to proprietary MBTs.
IT (the one and only) was a functional tank. It drove, it fired, it fielded functional armor arrays that had been battle proven on other platforms, and it even had supplemental ammunition developed specifically for it.
Much like the 2S38 (that somebody tried arguing not even an hour ago), it’s a functional weapon. Using the SEPv2 to argue for the SEPv3 receiving Trophy is as erroneous as using the Object 292 to argue for 152mm version of the T-64.
You hurt your what?

Who loaded it, the Driver? I bet he also had a hydraulic impact that he would use to unbolt the firewall and hand-load the charges himself.
Add SEPv2 with trophy, I’m all for it. Give its ARAT-II armor package modularity and the ability to be taken off, add M829A3 while you’re at it and start work on legitimate peer vehicles like the T-72B2 and 2A6M-A2.
I’m not arguing for the SEPv2 to not get trophy, I’m arguing the efficacy of the SEPv3 receiving trophy.
If it shot, drove, and was able to effectively target its weaponry, I’m all for it. I would rather have the CV90 Mk.4 with dynamic target selection and in-flight correction via fiber-optic line, but both is better than one or the other.