M1A2 SEP V2 doesnt have better LFP armour

Bro what kinda “abrams” is the first picture dawg I ain’t even sure if that is an Abrams. 💀💀💀 Fr tho what is that first picture?

M1 without it’s armor arrays, its pretty much the interior volume of the tank alone.

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It’s clear they have no intent to change the performance of the Abrams or any other NATO tanks. All sources posted here would have led to a change years ago but the Gaijin policy regarding sources for modern vehicles is both calculated and stupid.

Best way to actually change that is to stop playing to tier all together, that will have way more effect than another review bombing.

LET RUSSIA FACE RUSSIA AT TOP TIER !

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I just pray they do increase the armor eventually

And in the meantime i just drive around and be free exp ?
nah thanks

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the free RP being the 2A7V or the SEPv2? Because at the moment the 2A7V is far from free RP, it’s easily one of the best MBTs currently in game.

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did i said anything about the 2a7v ?
any Abrams is free rp so all all leopards (except maybe strv’s 122 and the new 2a7v)

Meanwhile i either suck at aiming or t80bvm got a insivible spall liner added to the “no handout” version

You replied to a dude who replied to a comment about the 2A7V, so yes it’s not exactly unreasonable to assume you might have been talking about the 2A7V.

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well my bad then just saw his comment and answered to it
sorry :(

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Make a bug report about this actually

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ah you mean the hull armor that has worse stats then the base leopard 2a4 ?
yes

ah you mean when you guys complained that the m1 needs m833 and m900 ? Also yes :)
And yes the 2a7v is better then the new added sep
but still not close to what it should be and right now we sit in the same boat :)
We show proof (without leaking stuff) tank X should have that amount of armor
and the answer we mostly get is :
Gajooble : NOOO can’t do
or

maybe,
could be
i don’t know :D

Fact check false: M1A2 SEP v2 got updated turret armor!

… It lost ~100mm of armor on the turret sides composite piece

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That’s an x-ray error, Protection Analysis returns identical KE results for both.

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You’re going to say you’ve been stuck with the same hull protection for every new Leo variant that has been introduced? There are big differences between the 2A4 and later models.

Whereas the from M1IP to include the SEPs are the exact same for us. Despite it being historically inaccurate.

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my mistake i’m rather tired when i visit the forum and do some oopsis here and there
well something new learned sorry :D
didn’t wanted to summon you here lol :D

Name A few tanks that are in the game (not ww2 coldwar or smt more like abrams leotards etc) that don’t have those inaccurate “features”
there more then enough Frankenstein tanks ingame :D

No, you just talked about a lot of things that dodged the point that you’ve received improved hull protection on later variants, unlike the Abrams. You put all the words there while trying to claim the situation is the same. It isn’t.

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Guys, guys… Can we just agree that most if not all NATO tanks are gimped AF and that we’d like to see them more accurately modeled?

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When I saw SEP would not receive its 250% better CE turret side protection, I gave up on it :))

Best, it was a primary source lol.

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Stop fighting each other, for one this is the M1A2 thread, not the 2A7 or 2A4 whatever, but also we all agree that they are gatekeeping the capabilities of both nations, now who gets it worse doesn’t matter this ain’t a competition, at the end of the day we all have to face the same T90M and T80BVM unicorn fest.

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Are the stacked steel plates modeled in the ERA like they are on the bvm’s bags?

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