M1A2 SEP V2 doesnt have better LFP armour

So. What if the eventual dev blog on the Abrams hull goes “We think it might have gotten it, but we aren’t going to put it in game because DU insert is OP”

What do we do then? I am really worried.

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That’s why I’m just playing my occasional game or two once a week to maintain forum posting rights, but I’m not giving a crap about the game until that’s decided.

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We mass downvote them on steam and then leave.

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I guess.

I guess we could point to the massive area around the breach block and turret ring, and tell them “shoot the weakspot” - just like the Russian mains do to us.

M1A2_armour_scheme

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Gaijin should’ve never gone past the 80s…

(Or arguably the 60s/70s, MBT-70 vs T-64A was the beginning of the end.)

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there is a lot of fun stuff they could have added. But top their makes them the most money I guess

An interesting doc:
Accounting for the titanium weight reductions on the SEP (~0.75 tons)
SEPv1 added 0.95 tons on top of M1A2
SEPv2 added 0.7 tons on top of SEPv1
Mod 1 added 0.7 tons
Mod 2&3 added 1.1 tons

For M1A1
M1A1DU added 2.6 tons to M1A1 (initial DU additions)
M1A1 SA added 0.9 tons to M1A1DU

So the 3rd gen DU and turret side armor on the SEPv1 could be represented in the ~1 ton increase over the M1A2 (offset by the substitutions of titanium components).
And the heavy hull armor on the SEPv2 and M1A1SA adds a further ~0.7 tons or less (SA getting some extra goodies to bring total increase to 0.9 tons).

We just need to have some GDLS dude print up a Brochure with the same font and style as the RMoD and declare the turret and hull armor to be proof against 1500mm KE.

Sale propaganda doesn’t have to be true for WT. We’ve seen that in current unmentionable events. Just has to be written down by an “authority” on the subject.

(While they’re at it, they can declare ARAT 2 to be worth 200mm KE at its best, so it can get 200KE from every direction.)

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That ain’t true. I read the DOD after action report on desert storm (there’s a PDF)

The figure you’re actually referring to is that on the 1st version of the M1A1 there was a fuel gasket leak that affected 1/3rd of tanks. They actually exceeded combat readiness of 95-96% for the entirety of the conflict.

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Bruh, the TURMS can lolpen the front of an M1A2 SEP. M829A2 doesn’t even reliably pen the breach or driver’s port of the BVM. Get out of here.

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Read my post again, but slowly.

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Told ya

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Well the update is coming out tomorrow so I doubt we will see any changes made to the “new and improved” Abrams…Really pathetic

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@Smin1080p sorry to ping you again.

The dev server Q&A (which I really like btw, they are great communications) mentioned that there would be another blog about the Abrams hull armor, this in itself is fine of course, the devs need time to work through the report. However with the technical downtime notice for tomorrow, does this mean that the SEPv2 will launch as it was on the dev server?

Thank you for your time.

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Is this the current protection?

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That’s the M1A2, I found the diagram on the WT wiki page

https://wiki.warthunder.com/M1A2_Abrams

I’m not sure if it’s up to date.

Oh gotcha, haha. Thank you. Sounds right the wiki would list it as that

Its hilarious the wiki has the old data from when the UFP wasnt nerfed and actually worked.

Damn, gg actually.

Although I still have a bad feeling about this.

Oh shit. Guess i missed the news