M163 radar is almost completely unusable

If it’s having trouble locking anything at all constantly in perfect conditions, then this is a bug, and it needs to be reported. Test drives should be no different from normal matches most of the time, which is why it’s strange that OP reported it acting this way on live servers only, so most likely a bug if this is true. You literally mentioned yourself that it’s a bug earlier;

So fricken report it than if it is one as you said earlier, it’s not that hard mate… Again, arguing in the forums won’t get a bug fixed.

Again, I can’t. If you can show me instances of this “bug” happening it would be highly helpful.

Not saying anyone’s wrong, I never did.
Simply suggesting causes for the “problems” being encountered.

We’re not ‘reporting’ it, we’re talking about it… We don’t need to provide you proof, or anything, we are asking about it…

You obviously haven’t gone in game to try it out, and that, is your issue.

It’s not props, it’s not a failure on the users side, it genuinely is a different situation than in the test drive AND it’s DEFINITELY not making ANY sort of lock in areas that it should actually be doing so.

From a distance of 2km, I can still make a lock in test drive, in real battles, you’ll not even get one at 500m.

There’s no-one arguing on the forums here other than you making one because you got called out over your dismissive and ignorant reasoning.

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Tired of your bs, hoped in some matches finally (bc I wasn’t home earlier like I tried to explain) and it works just as fine as I remember it being back when I did use it in my lineups. Had one or two moments where it wouldn’t lock an aircraft heading away from me (as expected) and one aircraft at a very far range (also expected), but locked pretty much everything I needed too, even some planes when a building was in the way of the locking search zone. It’s worked perfectly fine for me when I needed to lock and in the scenarios I used it in. If you’re having problems, than it seems it’s just y’all.

If this “bug” involving locking does exist, than
Please. Provide. Proof. Saying it happens to you without showing examples isn’t going to do anything and no one will be able to help you.

Other than this problem, I’m not going to argue over the other things in your previous message and “points” that were so oblivious to my message and its criticisms of you. You are the one being ignorant, and I do not wish to continue arguing over that or your distaste in my logical reasoning any further.

The tracking radar works fine so far, and I haven’t seen otherwise, please show me and others some instances of it not working so we can help you and OP.

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Maybe you should prove that it works as you’re saying it is…

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I just went into my replays and was going to tell you which replays and times to check, but it appears replays won’t show my radar locks… so that sucks…

If I have time tomorrow (unlikely, I’ll be extremely busy this week with work I let pile up a bit too much) I will try to grab some screen recorded footage, gotta figure out how to do that though and remember haha.

I will practice what I preach and try to get footage to show it working for me. (I might end up being extremely busy up until Friday, so unless by some miracle I have free time tmrw, I might be grabbing my footage on Saturday). However if you’ll trust my word until then, I can assure you, it was working perfectly fine for me in the short time I used it;

That ain’t proof…

This is.

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Is a reality check that hard for you?

Historically the VADS was so abhorrently bad that it was used for infantry engagements instead.

If you can’t take people being realistic and telling you that early radar SPAA sucks… The exact place you shouldn’t be is on the forums.

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The issue is that in the test drive it’s not acting anywhere near as dodgy as people proclaim it to be, and then in match, it’s not the same.

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In my personal experience with it the radar did jack in both the test drive and in-game.

In the test drive, it struggles to lock the IL-28 once it passes. In-match, it’s much the same.
Locks that are acquired as useless as well, as the effective range of the VADS is barely more than 1.5km. The ballistics indicator will not appear if the enemy is flying away from you at any discernible speed, and when they’re flying towards you they’re normally low enough to make acquisition impossible.

Then again… It’s a pulse-doppler track-only radar. Its primary use was on naval vessels. To stick an M61 on an M113 with the only radar lying around and expect it to work well is laughable.
Almost as laughable as the APG-66 on the M247…

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Thing is, as I’ve shown, there is a glaring difference.

Even with my noob use in battle, I’m sure it’s not as ‘able’ as the testdrive version.

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You locked a MiG-15 going less than 500km/h… Unless you also have gameplay footage of a MiG-15 going <500km/h with a clear sky and at a distance of 1km, It’s meaningless.

Yes I know, I said I would try to get a screen recording when I can, for now I just have replays and that is a still image from the replay where I had a lock, yet it doesn’t show the lock in replays so I can’t prove it to you.

Thank you for showing me, it seems like there’s 2 possible problems,
1: the enemy is too far away, can’t tell ofc since the game won’t indicate it for you. So this is less likely to be the problem, but still a potential.
2: (I noticed you use alt as part of your keybind for locking the target) Using alt to get a lock, and thus not being able to continue moving your crosshair with the target.
If you could please try changing you key bind to a single button you can use while simultaneously moving your crosshair over the plane, and not stopping in front of the plane while using your keybinds, it might end up working. Don’t know for sure, but worth a shot don’t ya think? The way your trying to get a lock could be messing it up if what I said above is indeed true. If that doesn’t work out, then I’ll hop into a bunch more matches later and see if I can encounter this bug myself. Again, thanks for showing me, it helps a lot.

(Might also be a combination of the two possibly…)

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None of what you said its the actual reason for the issue.

Ground clutter and interference is.

Ah yes, ground clutter while you’re looking at the sky…
(Did you try to keybind suggestion yet by the way?)

I did indeed, but I’m still having no luck locking…

Even last match I just had a teammate fly into my stream of tracers… Like, from behind me, across the field, looking like they were bombing thier squadmate, just flew into my tracers and died to me…

Thanks for at least trying it out, really thought that might have worked. Guess I’ll have to test it out still this weekend. And also yeah, those kinda oblivious teammates suck, real pain when you’re the one with the repair bill…
(Also I might have an idea, genuinely interested to see if it’s a map error or user error, perhaps it’s only effecting certain people, by any chance would you be interested in hoping into a match with me some time this weekend if you have the chance? Perhaps we could narrow down the problem if it turns out that you can’t lock anything but I can just fine, both in the same match against the same aircraft)

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I’ll definitely keep trying if I can muster the urge to queue again lol.

Just gotta hope I get clearer maps and that people do indeed spawn decent craft, and bring them in close. xD

I’d wonder if we knock trees down fast with a light tank, whether that would affect the clutter of trees.

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This is still a problem. Can’t lock on to anything in a PVP or Assault match, but it works pretty well in the test drive. Lead with the indicator, attempt to lock and you get a VERY brief green reticle and then it disappears. Happens with props and jets, high and low altitude, both near and far.

I’d only JUST realized that the 163 had a working radar and tried it and found it works remarkably well in the test drive. Super disappointed that it does nothing in the actual game.

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Maybe USA can borrow the ZSU-37-2 and learn how to make a non-useless radar! Miles apart in capability at the same BR.

It’s nothing new mate, anyone who plays The US knows the m163 doesn’t lock onto shit. It’ll lock 100m below the target, not lock at all. It’s just shit.

OP just manual it without radar, it’s still usable in that way. The target guide barely works anyways. Just Kentucky windage the bitch and you’ll be alright