M113 suggestion idea opinion and talk (not a suggestion yet)

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT A OFFICIAL SUGGESTION AS OF NOW. JUST ME GUAGING OPINIONS ABOUT IT FIRST

M113 APC/resupply carrier

"In the mid 1950s, the Army issued specifications for a new APC. The specs called for a fully tracked, fully enclosed vehicle that could match the mobility of modern tanks so that tanks and newly developed mechanized infantry units could work together as part of an integrated team. The new APC was to be amphibious and capable of being air dropped. It was also to be easy to maintain and allow infantry easy access and egress. FMC developed two prototype APCs, known as the T113 and T117. The T113 was constructed from aluminum and was thus considerably lighter than the steel T117, allowing it to be used in airborne operations.
The Army was pleased with the overall performance of the T113 and awarded FMC the production contract. After a number of modifications, the Army began accepting the new APC, now designated the M113, in 1960. The Army now had its “battle taxi,” a vehicle capable of bringing infantrymen onto the battlefield, where they would dismount and work in conjunction with tanks. The M113, measuring 15 feet, 11 inches long, 8 feet, 10 inches wide, and 8 feet, 2 inches in height, and weighing just over twelve tons, could carry eleven fully equipped soldiers and a crew of two (driver and track commander).

Its 209-horsepower Chrysler 75M gasoline engine gave the M113 a road speed over forty miles per hour. The M113 had a cruising range of approximately 200 miles. The vehicle’s armor, 12mm to 38mm thick, effectively shielded the occupants and crew from small arms fire and shell fragments. Armament consisted of a Browning M2 .50 caliber machine gun operated by the track commander from a hatch in the top of the vehicle. The large ramp in the back allowed soldiers to easily enter and exit the M113, while additional hatches in the top allowed cargo to be loaded and provided additional access points for troops.

The M113 was also amphibious, with its tracks propelling it through the water. The only aspect of the M113 that gave the Army pause was its engine. While reliable and powerful, the M113’s gasoline engine (and fuel cells) posed a significant fire hazard to the vehicle’s occupants if hit. While the original M113 was in production, the Army and FMC began developing a prototype with a safer diesel engine. Known as the M113A1, the new variant was equipped with a General Motors 215-horsepower diesel engine and first entered Army service in 1964. In addition to being less of a fire hazard, the new engine improved the M113’s range by 100 miles. As a result, the Army phased out the potentially hazardous early model M113s."- quoted from M113 (Armored Personnel Carrier) - The Army Historical Foundation

The m113 is a well-known APC in War Thunder, with various nations present in the game in one form or another. Adding this as a resupply/scout vehicle capable of replenishing nearby tanks’ ammunition would not be hard. It could receive a reward, which could be based on the amount replenished and/or caliber replenished. It could also be able to carry extra extinguishers and crew that it could give to teammates (crew would allow teammates to essentially replenish their crew even without the crew replenishment modification)

specs

would be a standard m113 hull, as seen already in-game, identical to the m113 seen in helicopter PVE, and would see a return of the amphibious m113.

Crew:
2 essential crew (Driver, Commander/machine gunner/radio operator) +8 additional that can be given to teammates (note that they would be able to be killed and would be modeled as crew

BR:
5.7-7.0

weaponry:
1x 12.7mm BMG (stock) (see image 1) ammo: 5000 rpg
1x 12.7mm BMG+ 2x 7.62 M60 machine guns( possible modification)(see image 2) ammo(for additional guns): 4000 rpg
The M113 would be classified as a light tank and would get access to scouting
Supplies (not for personal use) :
max 40 rounds (caliber not taken into account) of ammo, and 6 fire extinguishers

Possible modifications:
Mobility: Tracks, transmission, filters, engine,
Survivability: flak vest (same idea as with helicopters) (no crew replenishment due to only two crew members not including troops carried), ESS, smoke grenades, improved FPE(for personal use),
Weaponry/other: 12.7mm ammo belts, additional machine guns, 7.62mm Ammo belts, improved optics, artillery strike, NVD( for driver and commander)

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Image 2:
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Additional images:
M113-Series FOV: Don't Overlook Ramp ...
Portugal transfers 14 M113 armored ...
How effective was the M113 during the Vietnam war? - Quora
An M113 APC in Vietnam.[1023x715] : r/MilitaryPorn

Camouflage:
All USA MERDC camo’s already in-game(unlockable based upon assists), as well as tropical camo and a GE purchasable camo using a “Geneva Convention”-compliant medical symbols on the sides and front of the vehicle. (if possible, without it looking extremely weird)

NEW POLL:

  • Yes
  • No
  • No for now but yes with changes( please share)
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But would you like to see this vehicle added? (Old poll couldn’t modify it)

  • Yes
  • No
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@leroyonly do you think that this could get passed as a suggestion?

Bruh, more like 1.3 or 1.7.

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I don’t think it even pass to the devs

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Nope.

Nah. I don’t want to be in a bt-5 that was made around the mid 30s to see a apc that was made like 30 years later

You know the BT-5 would absolutely slap the m113, right? besides it would only be that low cause of its limited armament and in my opinion would just be a scouting tank/ makeshift low br AA

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But its not historically accurate??? Right??? I know it would be a easy target but I thought everyone wants the game to be HISTORCALLY actuate.

yea if it was historically accurate it would be facing t-55 and leopard 1’s but then again the m109, m56, m41, t92, and the m163 are all historically inaccurate in their placement too. plus (except the m109 and maybe the t92) are all Vietnam-era verticals; I did just find an image that could put it into 4.0-5.3, though.
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1x M2 BMG
2x M60 7.62 MG’s

It’d end up at like 1.0 as a starter SPAA or something

Otherwise it could just be its own separate class of support vehicles that can deploy ammo crates, etc

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Than just don’t add it than it will be very hard to balance, so we don’t want yet another vehicle that is horribly historically inaccurate

thats a good idea!

Thats a great idea actually

im gonna make a new version in this

Okay that would be awesome

Don’t think so since a single 50 cal isn’t even that good for rank 1, could maybe work as an spaa but then u would have ppls saying that a 1960s vehicle in low br is a no no.
However tho maybe they could add some of the ACAVs that are retrofitted with recoiless rifle or rpg. The ACAVs during the Vietnam war had so many config u could probly fill rank 3-4 us tt with them.
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There are probly more but i’m way too lazy to look for them

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its done( I think)

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Tier I M2A2 dialed to 11.

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You already do. Pbv 301 :P