well, your unwillingness to accept a premise for an argument doesn’t mean im not correct in my statements.
Why would Sweden get its third artillery when a bunch of others are only getting their first one?
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dude, my entire thing and point is based on the base tree. i didn’t count any nations premium artillery.
and my point was to have put the VIDAR, Sweden’s SECOND artillery, in the base tree INSTEAD of as a premium last update. did you even read all of my posts or just that one and immediately write?
if counting premiums then you can add several artilleries to some of those nations getting their “first”…
There are no other premium artilleries in the game yet. Only one event one, the Lorr 155. And that prem arty is by far the best in the entire game.
Just because you don’t count prem arty doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Yes, Swedens second artillery is a prem, but anyone else’s second artillery is a copy paste across multiple nations. Italy gets TWO copy paste artilleries, USSR’s second artillery is their first in a bit worse, Britain’s is, same as Italy, only going there because it gets copied among FIVE trees for easy content without effort. Meanwhile, Sweden gets two very unique vehicles for artillery.
I really don’t see the issue.
I would much rather have a copy paste vehicle in the normal tree than something unique that is behind a paywall that many people can’t get.
Absolutely correct, i never said it isn’t there. i just want it accessible for everyone and not just people that are able to spend money.
one massive point as to why it should not be behind a paywall, this is making it very close to pay to win.
main issue: many nations getting a free base tree artillery while Sweden got its last artillery added as a premium behind paywall. especially when Sweden has had VERY few interesting things added to its tech tree for a long time compared to many other nations that has gotten a lot more new and interesting vehicles already in their base trees.
This update MANY nations get an artillery.
last update USSR got the 2S1 in base tree.
update before that France got the AMX-30 Au F1 in base tree
Meanwhile Sweden’s new artillery gets paywalled.
The last time Sweden actually got something interesting for ground was almost a year ago in “fire and ice”. sure, it was A LOT of good things but the other nations have gotten a lot during the rest of the year as well.
it just absolutely sucks that when Sweden finally gets something interesting again they put it behind a paywall whilst other nations get theirs put in the base tree.
Edit:
Gaijin themselves states:
“Most War Thunder players - about 80% - have never paid a dime into a game”
this means that 80% of players wont/can’t play the VIDAR.
They have to add prems once in a while for their profit. If this game gave you everything for free with no reason to spend money, it would not exist.
If you want to play a copy paste, play it in one of those 5 trees that got it.
While it is the best one, I wouldn’t call it pay2win since it’s also 2.0 BR higher than most arty (and at least 1.3 higher than the second highest), so it also has to face much, much stronger opponents. It would only be pay2win if it’s also 6.0-6.7 like the other arties.
It will also go up even further, because Gaijin started it out too low, either out of incompetence or ill will to actually make it a little p2w from the start, which is indeed a terrible move, I’ll give you that. should’ve already been higher on arrival. But it will go up for a couple of BR change patches, probably.
Because Sweden already had a very unique and interesting artillery piece, and still has the most unique one. This patch mostly gave 3 nations that still had none one and gave it to just 2 more countries because they had it and Gaijin probably didn’t have anything else ready to give to Italy or Britain.
(USSR already had 2 last patch, but guess what, it’s the favourite child)
It’s not like they could’ve given Sweden the M109 either, because they never used it. Norwegen did, but those are relegated to premium vehicles, and you certainly didn’t want another arty to end up as premium right?
Besides, people would’ve probably been upset if Sweden got only arties two patches in a row.
Just wait for the future, they never said Sweden is never going to get another arty. And only 3 out of the 8 nations have 2 TT arties, one of them doesn’t even have a unique one (Italy), so Sweden doesn’t stand out on that one either.
Because they got their paywalled artillery last update and have had a unique one for way longer than most of the nations that get one this update.
France got the AuF1 because they had NONE. Before last patch, Italy had NONE.
Same for Germany, Israel, USA. NONE up until the patch drops.
The only update they didn’t get anything interesting for the tech tree was last update, because the Pvkv IV is kinda meh.
The updates before they got the CV9030 FIN, ItPsV 90 and T-55M. All fun and interesting vehicles imo.
It’s their CHOICE not to play the VIDAR. Playing a game as massive as WT that has been constantly updated for over 10 years without paying a single dime and then complaining about something like a second arty for a nation being paywalled is absolutely pathetic. Hundreds of hours of enjoyment FOR FREE and you lament about tiny things like this.
Are we ever going to get indirect fire added for artillery vehicles? I feel like it’s getting extremely awkward and rather difficult to balance artillery especially as we get more and more modern-era SPG added to the game that still can’t use the main intended role or function it was meant to be used for on the battlefield. (I.E: firing from way behind friendly cover, meaning they can also target locations or areas rather than individual units at one time).
Standard TD. All arty pointless without “new arty system”
Give indirect fire system!