“king of battle” is not something I’ve heard said in American military circles, is all I’m saying. In fact in this year I’ve heard it exclusively from Russian telegram/media.
The AHS Krab’s turret is a licensed Polish variant produced by Poland, it´s almost the same as the AS90, but this uses the German 155mm/L52 gun with autoloader when the AS-90 uses the 155 mm/L39 with autoloader. The AHS Krab uses the Polis Topaz fire control system with a Danish muzzle reference system. It uses the engine, running gear and suspension of the Polish PT-91 Twardy. Only the newest version of the Krab, are based on the chassis of the South Korean K9 Thunder. First new hulls for the Krab were completed in 2015. Only 36 units will be produced in South Korea and the REST 84 in Poland. This SPH is used by the Polish and now by Ukrainian army asswell, so since the Leopard 2 PL is in the game within the German tech tree I think it would be the most appropriate for this SPH.
Edit 1:And France has nothing to do with the AHS Krab because it did not produce or use this SPH, so no, the AHS Krab cannot be included in the French tech tree. It´s more German than French
Edit 2: Btw I put the German tech tree as an Example because we already have a Polish tank on the Greman tech tree, and because uses an German gun and the K9 thunder chassis, so can be on both The British and German tech tree
As I understand it the Krab uses the Nexter 155 L52 gun. Nextar was a French government owned at the time of intial production (Though Rhinemetall was subcontracted to make the barrels). The turret is a heavily modified (to fit the polish FCS as you said, amongst other things like radios and such) BAE AS-90M system licence built in Poland (the AS-90M was never adopted by the UK due to politics, thus the shorter barrel on British AS-90s as the AS-90M upgrade included switching to the Nextar 155 L52).
Also, the Leopard 2PL is not the only polish vehicle in game, there is also the polish Firefly and the ORP Garland in the British tree, and the polish P-47 in the US tree.
As it stands Germany A) has a domestic option in the PZH2000 and other import models like later M109s B) has very little to do with the SPH in general, the UK doesn’t need another SPH (there’s plenty of options between AS-90/M, Abbott, and later M109 mods) where as France has no option, thus will be stuck with the Auf1 going forward, unless something like the Krab is added there and with the gun being of french design, I feel the connection is strong enough.
Oh and on a slightly different note, both the AS-90 and the Krab uses a loader assist, not auto-loaders, so do temper your expectations if either is added, whilst loader assist as been modelled as an autoloader on the Type 75, the snail does as the snail pleases and all that.
Any chance for a German 2S1 or 2S3M?
Both were in NVA service
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Have you ever seen what a modern self-propelled howitzer does to a tank in direct combat?
Especially since they also have a laser range finder and imaging devices!
For example, here is the PzH 2000, where a tank used to stand, there is nothing left and it doesn’t matter what year the tank was built.
Watch 02:30 min
As far as indirect fire with self-propelled howitzers is concerned, Gaijin has long laid the foundation.
This requires a self-propelled howitzer and an artillery observer.
Both are present in the game and are easy thanks to the UAVs.
But like everything else, it needs training and fortunately we don’t have a WoT situation yet!
Gonna do same thing just as many do here, or do when talk starts about possible additions of artilery into the game:
2S19 /2S35 When?
(maybe even 2S35
prototype hehe)
and all Western countries get Arti grenades with thermonuclear warhead, good idea! 😆👍🏻
Russia has some too, your point? These dont fire just them, they can use older basic HE ammunition, just like any other suggested. Adding these shells wouldnt be balanced, no matter to who and in what way.
Image or video evidence? Otherwise nothing is proven and therefore only hear/say?!
Similar to the ERA armor, which is only present on Russian tanks in the game and in reality is made of sheet metal and rubber.
@_Remo
“I have never seen it so it cant exist!”
3BV3, accepted into service since 1981, 2S19 wasnt even planned that time period.
Can be used even by 2S3, other 152mm guns too.
Soviet 420mm, 203mm, 180mm, 240mm have thermalnuclear rounds as well.
Um Israel, China, Britain,France, USA???
Open the game and see these nations have them (you have only premiums and no researched TTs except Germany lol)
I know to which case you refer to and I can say its a disinformation, the examined ERA blocks were from destroyed T-80 that one side was constantly taking scraps from for quite a time, thus ERA blocks not having explosive reactive blocks, as these were earlier removed to put on their own tanks. That has been proven on English YouTube channel if i remember right.
Effectiveness of K-5 has been long proven, West has been making new rounds just to combat it, same with Relikt, though effectiveness of last is not known to public, at least in details.
Oh god enough with the soviet BS … there’s already far enough vehicles in that tech tree. It’s about time to fill the enormous gaps in the other nations.
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Not saying other nations shouldnt recieve stuff, just saying if more artilery gets added into other TTs, i see a way of adding these. After all I have seen interesting suggestions of artileries for other TTs, so why not suggest something as well.
Nice picture of a packaged grenade, but it’s not much more than that. 👍🏻🤷🏽♂️
Then to supplement ERA:
Only with the Russian models do they work better in the game (not in the garage) than shown.
When it comes to evidence regarding videos, there is now more than one that points to the lack of the explosive component.
It’s also easy to see that even if it’s there, it doesn’t seem to work nearly as well as it should.
The best example was being shot at with a DM11.
But we should get back to the topic.
If they were modeled to have % they take from penetration that would only benefit them. I think theres more than enough videos with tests to show that i am right. If you think other ERAs underperform make a bug report (trusted sources only)
Nice video of some test, did they use only one they made? :) (judging by what video info says, it never even seen battle and only 20 such cannons were made lul.)
It was also made clear that’s a disinformation.
Also to the Germany they could add PzH 2000 (and its prototypes), SP70 (might be getting name wrong)
Have you seen the video where the DM11 flew into the side of the T90 or T72?
In the video there were no signs of contact armor counter-reaction to the DM11 impact!
The crew was lucky to survive, at least the driver.
Because Russian tanks normally have the habit of throwing away the turret when hit.
It’s not like there are already a dozen test vehicles in the German TT
I didnt, just as you didnt see call out on the video claiming theres no explosives in russian ERAs, but as you said, lets get to topic.
Im just making suggestion of artilery pieces that could be added, yes TTs can be big, but artilery pieces are rare to find, if everyone got some artilery pieces, it would only open up new room to add some.
Britain can get AS-90, Italy can get PzH2000, Germany can get PzH2000 and SP-70, Japan can have Type -99, France can get AMX30 AUF F2, USSR can get 2S19 (maybe even 2S35 but unlikely)
You can add things to list, just a suggestion.
The option already exists today, but there are only a few usable cards for it.
We optimistically have maybe 5 maps in the game that would allow the use of indirect fire.
Too many small maps and too many city maps.
So basically going into direct fire combat with a huge tank again, which isn’t any fun either.
Thats true, though what to go in into battle is choice of a player, artilery would be situational, just as most TDs are.