Attempt #2… sigh
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SmmZ6o7UvvOo
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Hardly the worst I’ve seen, but it really does look like you need to do everything you can to drag them to a supporting conclusion.
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Judging by the poor english, I think whoever reviewed your report translated it into their native language and it most likely screwed up the entire report. It’s completely fine to have international managers review reports made in different languages, but maybe have the report be viewed by someone who’s fluent?
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That’s what I was thinking… not English speaking moderator. And his reasoning is just absurd that it does not contradict the in game model. To ask for more information and supporting sources, or to say some other sources contradict this one would make sense; but to say the source doesn’t contradict the in game model is just objectively wrong.
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I just don’t like the fact there’s 0 way to appeal any of the decisions as GMs and other moderators on the forum are separate to the bug reporting forum managers.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SmmZ6o7UvvOo?comment=dLvQ7jw9SFVBTSBq8C6yIjCd
Submitted as a suggestion. First mod was a doofus, confirmed.
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And as usual no accountability for said mod not doing the right thing the first time
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Seen worse
Might’ve been some but most likely not disclosed. Plus it’s good it’s now accepted as a suggestion (even if that means purgatory for 2 years)
Here’s the military’s simulation of component damage for the M1 abrams against *unspecified round that can penetrate.
The component disabling chances were pretty low.
Also noted there are manual azimuth gearboxes and elevation pumps which would indicate a secondary to the hydraulic system that’s modeled in game right now.
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Here we go… M1A2 SEPV3 is here, anyone find any implementations of the previously mentioned accepted bug reports?
From what I’ve gathered- hull armor still WIP (and it doesn’t sound like Gaijin is sure if they will implement it yet due to lack of mention in the devblog) as it is a different X-Ray model but offers the same protection.
M829A3 has got to be WIP still, it is basically worse than the M829A2….
Turret cheek armor is a great improvement, but still the same incorrectly modeled (Community Bug Reporting System) gun shield seen in the M1A0 in game…
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Any movement on the configuration of the Special skirts?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SmmZ6o7UvvOo
turret sides are also still the same as original M1
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M829A3 does actually have an impact on the effectiveness of Contact-5 ERA as designed. Though the stat sheet to the A2 is very similar, it has approximately 40mm of increased effectiveness against Contact-5, though not a huge difference. There is no increase in effectiveness against Relikt, it is exactly the same as the A2.
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Good news… Praise the snail, it appears we have some movement on our bug reports. It appears their test subject is the M1A1 in the US tech tree, changes are not visible on any other vehicle.
So far, we can see we have a volumetric turret ring model, remodeled fuel cell bulkheads (which hopefully translates to additional UFP armor), a new and correct gun rotor X-Ray model (hopefully adding more protection), volumetric single piece hull, redesigned turret basket with MUCH more open space (not every hull shot will disable turret drive), and also some added FCS and aiming drive modules.
I have to say I am happy so far and finally hopeful more changes will be coming.
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In the current build it seems to provide the same amount of protection as before
I hope this is just a WIP thing and they still need to update the damage model
Everything else though so far is huge and the turret ring actually offers 150mm of protection now with some areas getting up to 190mm
Autocannons still seem to be able to pen in little spots but its significantly more difficult now which is great
Regarding the fuel bulkheads they too seem to still provide the same level of protection as before and are still not fully enclosed which the original bug report specifically mentions
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Has anyone else noticed they removed M829A2 from all of the rank 8 abrams?
It got replaced with M829A3 which normally i would not complain about but the round honestly feels overall worse than M829A2 with its lower velocity/penetration at range and its anti-era capability is barely modelled on kontact-5 and it does straight up nothing against relict
I got some comparisons using the new in game feature too
Blue M829A2
Green M829A3
The penetration is whatever tbh but the velocity is quite a bit slower than the A2
It honestly just feels like a moment where they remove a round that otherwise is still a good option and for me i probably would use instead of the new one
I’ve even said I’ve seen it do minimal on video to K5 even… But everyone took Protection analysis at face value and called it a day day one. When even when it did show good pen margins it was yellow not green.
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Yeah the problem is for an anti-era round it honestly fails to go through K5 in practical shots
and with its current performance having zero effect on relict which is the primary ERA you face at toptier now i just dont see much value in it how it currently is implemented
The current hitbox for Baskets only accounts for the top and bottom, anything in-between is just visual fluff, in practice it didn’t change much at all.