how much RP is needed for level 50? And most level 50 I see dont have any tech tree finished.
4,748,700 RP
The reason you don’t see a TT finished is due to playing multiple trees.
I’m level 63 with only the F5E as my highest unlock, but I’ve multiple nations ground out at WW2 and some to rank 5.
If instead, I went about it as ONLY ever playing swedish air -
(trawling thru my old posts):
Doing a super simplified calculation of “Take plane with highest RP cost for a given rank, multiply by amount needed to unlock next tier”. For the Ja37C, I just took its RP cost and the preceeding aircraft’s RP cost (260K + 350K).
Sweden, to unlock the 11.7 Ja37C without any top tier buy premium shenanigans takes at most 2.61 million RP - corresponding to level 35.
Variation of ±2 levels is possible with actually careful calculation paying attention to branches and realizing unlocking rank VII doesn’t take researching 4 J35Bs for 220K RP each J29F and J34 both only take 160K each, thus I’ve overshot the RP required by 120K here already.
Why calculate sweden? They got few aircraft and simple branch dependencies and not a lot of foldering. Foldering can reduce the RP requirement further, branch dependencies can introduce unpredictable RP requirements.
Getting JAS39C (absolute lowest plane in TT), it’s ~1.5m more RP rounded up. 1.5M more RP pushes us up to just under level 50. F18C is just half a mil, so not even 50.
Tanks I havnt calculated.
Another thing from that old thread:
They’re level 21 despite playing for nearly 6 days straight. Why? Because they only fly low-RP reward game modes (air sim, where you are capped at 2000 RP (+500 for landing) every 15 minutes) and aircraft (136% RP modifier).
I’m level 50 with 6 days in tanks, 6 days in planes (RB), 4 days in planes (SB) (total 16 days)
I checked some lvl 100 in my squadron. 13 days in planes (RB), 6 days in tanks (RB), 1 day in planes (SB). Total days: 20.
They have 4 days more played than me and are level 100. I have 11 days played more than that level 21 and I’m level 50.
Bit old, but still works for effect.
So going by that Level 50 as a level requirement to buy rank 8 and 7 seems good to me.
I’d just go that they have have unlocked at least 1 rank 6 vehicle within the relevant game mode (air, ground, naval). Maybe formalize it into N-1 generally.
That is similar to my other suggestion. And it would definitely fix the issue of having absolute noobs in top tier. Especially if we also nerf base bombing in air. But I dont think Gaijin will ever implement it. Because it would mean missing out on a lot of money.
Sadly Gaijin definitely will not do this and problem of new players plaguing higher tiers is here to stay. You can propose ideas but nothing substantial will ever come through.
It’s a shame they did this with a multi-spawn mode, instead with a single-spawn mode like ARB, where single vehicle warriors would hurt the matches way less. Seeing Air still not receiving 13.7 premiums makes me wonder…
even a requirement of level 30 would greatly improve gameplay, there are so many players with level 20 or below.
it doesnt have to be a radical change, it should just prevent normal top tier games from being plagued by brand new players
You would also have more skilled players that (hopefully) don’t leave after one death, so you have more people to actually shoot at in the end. Also your teams wouldn’t collapse in the first 5 minutes
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or just removing toptier premiums would be very good but gaijin needs money dont care about players
In this game, too much depends on randomness, from which side of the map you start to how the server registers your projectile hitting an enemy. So, you can’t do anything about it! Don’t forget that among level 100 players, there are those who only play one respawn. Therefore, regardless of whether there are new or old players, you’ll often see those who leave the battle without contributing to the victory. Especially at high ranks.
I don’t think I have ever seen that stated
oh my god 12/59 is insane
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Here’s my T-72B I’m also struggling lol except it was a lot worse, because I’m level 100
29% winning rare, there are some br I’m just having no idea how to play.
“Looks at in game player line up”
"It’s full of “insert preferred High Tier premium flavor vehicle of the week”
“sighs”
“2 minutes in to game checks board again, they’re all dead and have left”
“the 3 cap advantage that was had is now rapidly lost due to there literally being no team”
“Exits game Hits battle button”
“Rinse and repeat”
Thinks this is the state of top tier gaming this along with being nuked from orbit and not being able to do anything about it is depressing
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yes of course, considering they actively sabotage their own team, on top of not contributing anything
there is nothing wrong about top tier premiums themselves, they need some ways to rip off players after all. the issue is that premiums fully skip any grinding or skill-gaining for anyone
multiple threads about low level players in top tier mentioned this idea
but i assume your t72 is part of an actual lineup, and maybe you only spawn this t72 when you die in your main vehicle?
i have vehicles with very low winrates because unless i am losing, i just dont spawn them
Don’t worry mate, there are plenty of those present in mid tier games as well. You can ALWAYS tell right from the off as they shoot you up from behind, barge into your vehicle and blunder on firing away at everything and nothing advertising to the other side where they are. Needless to say they don’t last very long and then leave the game. This game is ALL ABOUT CASH FOR GAIGIN, they realise that there are many many more average, mediocre and less than mediocre players than good ones…so don’t hold your breath for something to redress your problem. It ain’t happenin’.
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Im lvl 100. With many k hours ingame, but my only top tier vehichle is a F16C. Ok i play all trees, and ground and air are completed up to rank 6.
But sometimes, when i go to battle with a leo2 123 and vilkas, i feel myself like a full newbie, and cant do nothing just die instantly. So i climbed the ladder, but the knowledge, from lower tiers mean nothing. Top tier is an another game.
So when someone skip the low and mid tier experince, can be good at the very fast top tier
Air top tier is not a game. Its a beep beep beep you are dead, or a beep beep aircraft destroyed full random
And ofc gaijin want to sell the overpriced premiums…
Yep. I think there should be a minimum level required for buying a toptier premium.
But ofc Gaijin wants money over fun
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The whole game (all f2p) games built for the “suffer or pay” method.
This game at least 10 different “games”, with own meta tanks/planes/ships, and own game mechanics (Air Arcade, Ground Arcade, Prop RB, Early jet RB, Jet RB, Toptier air RB, WWII ground RB, Coldwar ground RB, Toptier ground RB, Naval)
Not everybody interested in all modes and gameplays, so gaijin gives the chance for buy the tanks, planes, ships for your preference.
Or grind trough whole techtrees when you want and play with this method.
Most players are adults, with full time jobs like me, not everyone have the same freetime for playing, but they have money for buy a top tier experience
Its not a bad thing
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youre gonna suffer for at least 500 hours whether you jump straight into top tier or not.
some period of “preparation” for all new players should be a thing, at least to prepare for the barest basics.
for example its clear that something like “dont block or crash into teammates” isnt taught to new players, and of course it shows during gameplay.
someone with level 20 simply cannot understand top tier and shouldnt be left to ruin their teams games.
if they introduced some sort of quick “school” or tutorial for players who bought a top tier vehicle without actually grinding it, i think it would make top tier games 2x better to play. it would give new players at least some sort gamesense as opposed to just throwing them into a blender and letting them take a week worth of pure gameplay to begin to get used to it