Lots of people CRASHING their planes to avoid giving kills

Then there should not be a problem if I call you a coward and unsporting, because that is the reputation such actions get you going back to the history of warfare itself. Be a man and take it instead of plugging rabbit shit in your ears and making up some crap. Btw, calling someone a kid does not add any credit to your argument. It just makes you look even more clueless.

The forum is free speech, “accept it, leave it, move on” just like you say you do (you don’t). We are allowed to state our opinion; in fact the dictionary definition of a coward is pretty fucking objective, but I can understand if you don’t get it because they hardly teach kids how to read in America. No need to act like some kind of forum Stasi member.

You just didn’t like being called what you are and made nearly a thread’s worth of replies to justify why you did cowardly and unsportsmanlike behaviour. Gaijin won’t punish it, so what? I don’t give a single damn what some rich businessmen in Hungary think, It won’t stop me from calling you out.

The definition does not change if it hurts your feelings. For someone who claims to be “mature” and talks down to me as if I left the womb yesterday, you have a piss poor grasp of being a gentleman.

Furthermore, I’m not stopping you from making out with an oak tree so there is no need to insinuate that it is the case.

If you want me to respect you like a brave and honourable person, be one. Or you can just slam the w key to pitch down every time you feel slightly threatened.

Kind regards,

jaded_sakura77, aka sak

P.S. I’ll know if you actually read this so if you’re gonna do the whole fingers in ears thing don’t bother replying.

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I think it is also fair to say that it is the forum Hitlers who have destroyed this game and removed the freedom of choice from it in so many ways.
It’s a shame the Devs listen to them.

You’re probably right, although do you really think this is the kind of discussion that leads to changes in game? (good or bad) I feel like it’s been petty bickering for the last 80 or so comments, and any merits to the discussion have been kinda lost.

It’s odd because so many of us remember War Thunder’s founder Anton Yudintsev quite clearly stating that his passion as far as this game was concerned was the amount of player freedom and tactical choice that was available.If the rules said it was legal you could do it.

It took me a while to get good enough to understand what he meant and now I am somewhere near good enough that choice is disappearing fast.I feel a bit cheated like I missed the golden era.

I wonder how Anton feels about it all now.

I think this is an interesting point but I’m not sure what you mean say you feel like your choices are disappearing, could you please elaborate. In the context of this discussion do you think that it’s the ‘complainers’ manipulating the game to the point where only one style of play is feasible? (for example)

Personally, I think the freedom of choice is still there, it’s just that only a few choices lead to successful outcomes in battle (again this depends on what you want to get out of the battle, points, fun, progression etc.)

In the realm of rules, games and choices I hear a useful chess analogy thrown around a lot. Chess is a game, chess has rules and limitations but within the framework of the restrictions you still have freedom of expression. What you can’t do is change the rules and still be playing chess. Now because actions in war thunder are limited to what the game engine allows, it’s quite difficult to break the game as it were. However, I still believe there’s room to try new strategies and develop new techniques.

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Unfortunately I don’t always play American tanks

they got Dshk and similar warsaw pact 12.7mm and the KPV 14.5mm on russian and chinese tanks,

also every tree has an american tank. a lot of vehicles have m2s

The devs will what they read ,I have no control over that

if you want to use a chess analogy then imagine losing 20% of your moves after you spent 5 years learning the game.

If you exchange moves for strategies, that is exactly what’s supposed to happen. Eventually you are going to discard the tactics that don’t work if that’s 20% so be it.

The development of strategy is narrowing down the available options into the ones with the highest likelihood of success.

I argue that we have the freedom to choose any strategy we want, moves if you will, but we’re not guaranteed that any of them will work.

Basically,…

So you admit that if everyones goes by J-out and Crash each time they started to get targeted it will be a waste of time to play the game?
Thank you,…

What emotion? I’m coldly trying to tell you what is wrong by doing/allowing such kind of “pro-choice/pro-move”, because it will be reproduced by the main part of the community before long.

So last night someone took this to a new level - I was lining up a shot on a guy shooting down my bombers (in Sim EC) and another guy came in from off-screen rammed into the guy I was about to shoot and the IL-2 they both were aiming at - giant fireball and a fresh pair of blue balls for me.

It was like something out of a Ryan Johnson movie.

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Not really ,reduction of open map space limits strategy greatly and the choices you had in terms of positioning three years compared to now were far less limited.You could use cover to snipe if you found a good spot ,now any good spot is reported and removed.

Soft cover was removed and made the use of open SP guns less attractive which was a bit of a blow if that was your favoured method of play.Saying the game is not a sniping game is unwelcome news to a sniper just like nerfing CAS is bad news to a flyer.

The freedom is certainly on the way out no doubt.

Why would I stay stick and stay alive if fire and forget munitions have been lobbed at me and there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it do on big open maps? Maybe gaijin needs to design better maps until then I’ll just take the smarter option

Let us forget about limited angle of mounted mgs!

its always the chinese players doing it too

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Typically it is enough to get low fliers

If we need to rely on players being bad to be able to do something, then it is not a reliable tactic.

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Up to like 9.0 they have to go low to accurate drop bombs or fire rockets

Lmao, tell me more about things You don’t know about.

Flying so low that ground players can use mounted mg on You is just a skill issue, nothing more.

Idk about 7.62 but
50 cals can reach most planes that are doing attack runs near you

If enemy air user is just bad.