One notable feature for the F-35 is the SUU-96 pylon and LAU-151/152 launcher rail. These are designed for the low observability requirements, allowing the F-35 to load short-range missiles externally while maintaining extremely low RCS.
There is also the AIM-9X Block II+ with reduced RCS for enhanced survivability.
Though not official, there are some simulation that support this.
Worthy opponent against po2
Not sure how they will implement sams in ground rb to work against this thing but +1 anyway for air rb
Great information. Thanks for sharing the simulation report; it’s a fascinating read.
I’ve updated the F-35’s history and specs to reflect and emphasize that information.
American F-35A and Russian Sukhoi Su-57 met on the same airfield for the first time at Aero India 2025 in Bengaluru, India.
Could this be the genuine competition between the 2 many have been waiting for?
Will be interesting to see them competing for the contract side by side
the only thing su57 does better than f35 is RCS, cause bigger number morer better.
Being fr, the SU-57 carries 10 missiles internally while the F-35 can only carry 4, the maneuverability is better, its radar is allegedly better, and apparently, it’s faster too. Oh yeah, and it costs like 50 million less to produce.
Could’ve sworn it only carried 6 total internal.
And doesn’t F-35 also carry 6 if you count the side bay sidewinders?
And it’s currently being upgraded to hold 6 amraams?
su57 carries 6 internally, 6 externally
F-35A Block 4 can carry six AMRAAMs in its internal bay.
It is eight in total if it’s the F-35A Block 4. These sidewinders are mounted on special external wingtips (SUU-96 pylons and LAU-151/152 launcher rails, as stated above). AIM-9X Block II+ missiles on the outside are stealthy enough without negatively impacting the F-35 in its stealth mode.
Its 6 missiles when they carry the R-37M internally. 4x R-37 with 2x Archer) But with the R-77M, I’m pretty sure its 8x R-77M and 2x Archer meaning 10 internally. So for the purpose of the Su-57, yeah most of the time it’s probably going to be carrying R-37Ms over R-77Ms, so effectively it’s only 6.
The F-35 doesn’t have those…
Yes, that’s true.
Yes, but 2 of those are external Aim-9s that gotta have some effect on it’s stealth.
German F-35A would be radical too since they ordered it. Also where is the suggestion post for Aircraft external signal lights?
R-37M could not be carried internally because of the large finspan, and that’s why the Russians developing Izdeliye 810.
The Su-57’s weapon bay could accommodate only four R-77M (Izdeliye 180) and two R-74M2 (Izdeliye 760).
I’m not going through a 1-hour video or translating that image to disprove you. I believe you ig.
For some reason it’s extremely hard to find reliable sources about the SU-57 and its payload capacity… It took me 10 minutes to find out it seemingly has side bays with each one missile, which are not even mentioned on most websites. The two belly bays are usually said to have 3 hardpoints each, but some fake pictures depict 4 small missiles in a square arrangement. The wings seem to have 3 external pylons each. So yeah with such blurry informations it’s gonna be hard to get a precise idea of what we’re working with
edit: according to chatgpt (not that reliable I know but eh at this point) the belly bays can only hold a total of 4 instead of 6, which brings the count back to 6 with the side bays but doesn’t correspond to the pictures…
being fr fr its no matter how many missiles it can carry or RCS, the point is the enemy. F35 gets way closer to its target, being SAM sites way better than the 57. The 57 could have more chanches against a force with Eurofighters and F35s, having more missiles can play more defensive. you have to consider also both amraams and Meteor in the fighting theatre. reality is the best plane is the one wich can use to effect the larger amount of its weapons. The su57 launching 10 missiles with 2 connecting is way worse than a F35 launching 4 missiles with 3 connecting. in war thunder i think that a F35 with meteors and IRIS-T will be way better than SU57
F-35 with Meteors vs SU-57 with R-37M is a fight I’d like to see.
This for Germany too but IRIS-T capable please :D (They totally will try to put IRIS-T on it).
Unless the analog Interface of the sidewinder changes with the 9x, it’s already IRIS-T capable :D
(Tho not to it’s full capabilities)
