Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor

If you think 130x130km is too small… lol We don’t even have munitions that can cross even half of that at normal flying altitudes.

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We’re currently on War Thunder 7.
There doesn’t need to be perpetual additions either.

There are still plenty of planes to bring in game, not only for top but previous tiers as well. So many variants…
But i do believe after they satisfy the ^hunger^ of the masses to play the next ^best plane in the world^ , they’ll bring some actual gameplay into the game.
They can even make campaign mode and sell campaigns like single player games with expansions etc.
I don’t think there will be WT 2 , for the next 5 years at least.

WW2 and early cold war vehicles won’t bring the money nor the hype that these leaked vehicles will bring.

War thunders entire update model for the past 8 years have been releasing new dangling vehicles to keep people playing.

People playing costs the company money.
The “update model” [not a thing] exists to support game development in a consistent manner.
Features, vehicles, etc.
Vehicles are not the goal of War Thunder. And infinite profit also isn’t the goal of War Thunder.

isnt that the same as 70 just inverted

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i think this is what he meant (sorry for bad drawing). an F-22 can do this comfortably while staying in controlled flight according to what test pilot saw

it wouldn’t suprise me too much if other planes could do that, as they pretty much would only need a good enough TWR to sustain a 70* climb. If he meant pulling 110* to climb, that is impressive.

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i think he means being able to maintain flight at that AoA which i dont think many planes can do, and the ones that can all must have TVC

nice F-22 picture

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I’m dubious as to how the heck Gen5 gameplay would sit within the current WT meta. DeepAI said this:

“In a 16 vs. 16 F-22 scenario, the fight would be less about individual aircraft and more about networked tactics, electronic warfare, and coordinated maneuvers. Both sides would attempt to leverage stealth, speed, and superior situational awareness to gain the upper hand, making it a highly complex and unpredictable aerial battle.”

Can’t really imagine this not being a complete cluster-f of madness.

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If they add 5th gen without a new gamemode, EW/ECM or new (bigger) maps, consider the game dead. The missiles we’re starting to fire are getting to ranges of easily being able to go airfield to airfield and then some… We’re cooked.

This thing its HEAVY…

Honestly have my doubts about it weighting that much. Where does 14,000lb come from on an airframe much newer (composite and stuff) and similar dimensions to an F-15C which is 29000lb empty

Well the engines it uses are very heavy, almost 5 thousand kilograms combined. That is heavier than most other 2 engined fighters

Ok so compared to F-15C at about 3000kg. That’s still like 9,600lb difference on a newer airframe with more composite and lighter tech

RAM and Structural.

Still, you would think the structural differences would be largely negated by a more modern and composite using construction. And I really don’t think the RAM weighs that much

Ram is really heavy. ““The second is a conductive coating consisting of silver flakes mixed with polyurethane materials and intended to conduct, dissipate and reflect the radar waves away. The third is the topcoat, which has other metallic materials and infrared properties to reduce heat and thus radar detection. In addition, other coatings such as [radar absorbent materials], gap fillers, and adhesives were applied on various specific areas of the aircraft.””