Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor

Personally its not surprising as gaijin has turned from an actual historical vehicle enthusiast game to a cash grab that srives to reach modernity as fast as possible.

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i mean there is speculation from pilot the true ceiling of the raptor is more like 70-75k ft, limited to a little over 60,000 because of what would happen to the pilot if there was a loss of pressure at that altitude (not an issue ingame)

this means it could evade every SAM ingame by just chilling at 20km or higher at supersonic speed w/o burner, making it the perfect CAP platform

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Ever since the F15E was added last year, I always thought the F-22 would finally be here in the end of 2025 and it seems like I predicted it, but take it as a grain of salt since there’s a chance that it’ll be pushed back further to 2026

Why would Gaijin wait 2 years to add anything beyond Typhoon, F-15E/C, Rafale, etc?
Also all the important aspects of F-22 for gameplay purposes are unrestricted.

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we dont have max radar range, true top speed, true top speed on mil power officially stated (no burners). pilot testimony does fill in a lot of this stuff but unless gj changes rules on bug report it wont work

a lot of the official stats are insanely lowballed facades

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Well F-18C’s mach 1.02 supercruise speed when clean is modeled in War Thunder despite there not being sources.
Knowing enough tends to make rather accurate flight models.

I doubt performance is low-balled, especially when dogfights data is entirely public as well.
Mach ~2.3 is likely its top speed after all.

True true.

There is also the possibility F-22 are intentionally detuned to maintain opsec and allow allies to actually win. It has no real marketing impact bc f22 is congressionally blocked from exports

The figures I think are lowballed the most by official sources are mil power supercruise speed and true operating ceiling

well, in my opinion the current war thunder are monstrous, the f22 is completely unsuitable for the current top tier, the maps are too small, and you might as well have to carry bombs with the f22 to get the RP

And gaijin will also make whatever they want since they said report based on guesses will not be accepted, and they also do not accept classified documents.

no

+1 Obviously I want to see 5th generation aircraft like F-22, F-35, Su-57, but with the current maps it would be horrible, and we still don’t have F-18 SuperHonet, Su-35, Gripen E and J10C

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its comin soon

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So whats left to add after we reach the end? Or will they shutdown the game and develop war thunder 2 instead?

The implementation of 6th gen or adding early vehicles that has never made it into the game could be a possibility.

There’s still plenty of vehicles that can be added, from modern down through WW2 and interwar and even WW1 vehicles there’s tons of options. Just look at the suggestions here on the forums there’s loads left that can come.

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If you think 130x130km is too small… lol We don’t even have munitions that can cross even half of that at normal flying altitudes.

@Ωκεανος
We’re currently on War Thunder 7.
There doesn’t need to be perpetual additions either.

There are still plenty of planes to bring in game, not only for top but previous tiers as well. So many variants…
But i do believe after they satisfy the ^hunger^ of the masses to play the next ^best plane in the world^ , they’ll bring some actual gameplay into the game.
They can even make campaign mode and sell campaigns like single player games with expansions etc.
I don’t think there will be WT 2 , for the next 5 years at least.

WW2 and early cold war vehicles won’t bring the money nor the hype that these leaked vehicles will bring.

War thunders entire update model for the past 8 years have been releasing new dangling vehicles to keep people playing.

People playing costs the company money.
The “update model” [not a thing] exists to support game development in a consistent manner.
Features, vehicles, etc.
Vehicles are not the goal of War Thunder. And infinite profit also isn’t the goal of War Thunder.

isnt that the same as 70 just inverted