I do as well but i also enjoy Challenger’s playstyle.
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Maybe not slow in terms of top speed but very chonky and annoying to manouver.
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Thats the issue in a straight line they are fine moving to a ridge to fire and is so unbearable slow.
And yes turning gaijin needs to model modern tank steering and torque.
They are pretty bad tbh man.
Luque claimed they were absolutely useless which isnt true.
But they are not excellent tanks, id verge on saying they arent even solid, but ill reserve that statement until i get the leclercs and merkavas.
They lose too much speed turning and are far heavier than other tanks for recovering said speed.
59kmph is fast enough but in the straight line regard.
I will say dm13 shatters a lot on the 105mm on tanks like 1a5 a1a1
Leopard 2k is a phenomenal tank even for 10.0
Dm13 on 105?
Dm13 on the leopard 1a1 is potent af man
i shot Xm803 in the side well before he could react shell shattered i died
I mean that’s vague, as well volumetric has a huge part to play.
Seen an xm800 eat an L15A3 earlier
yeah well should not be voulmetricing on 15mms of armor
I’m talking about 120mm DM13, not 105mm.
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look forward to the future
Germany started the development for the leopard 3 with 130mm cannon
Take a guess what the new concept proving ammunition is gonna be called.
If you guessed DM 13 you are right, the HE is DM11 as well and the first real round is gonna go back to the good old DM23. And thats all for the 130mm caliber xD
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The Leopard 2 140 is the one I’m more looking forward to for the game.
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The just how the naming scheme works, every new calibre starts from the beginning. DM = Deutsches Modell, first number indicates the series/version, second number indicates the type. 1 for HE, 2 for HEAT, 3 for AP etc
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Type-10 also suffers from same issue.
It looses too much speed when turning, as for the recovering, thats entirely Gaijin’s fault due to not introducing regenerative steering.
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Definitely agree man, though at least the type ten is a fast mofo and does gain it back faster.
That’s the case for all “heavy tanks”. Gaijin had promised us differential steering to rid us of the issue of tanks being too unmanouverable, and yet, it it nowhere to be seen.
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Again agreed. Look at say the M103 , Tiger 2 (god forbid the heavier german tanks) they turn into fking slabs when they so much as turn.
It’s probably time to resurrect this thread from the grave.
What happened? Was the German lineup really too strong?
Did they have to turn the Leopard into a repair trauma machine? Was it necessary to nerf the EF2000’s only advantage (its maneuverability in cornering combat), even though it (even after the patch) has abysmally poor radar and, compared to other top-tier jets, the worst air-to-ground armament?
And the Tiger UHT? Did they really have to give the French (who never had it in this form, not even the PARS) a better version?
I’m astonished, and I’m taking this as an opportunity to take a break from my German lineup.
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