I was talking about their comment on the BeNeLux. Tho it can be seen that ROC/Taiwan could be a sub-tree but, I think it’s more both are China.
That’s probably best for political reasons.
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Same with britain at the moment also gripen is still their best overall fighter.
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They both are german.
There is variius versions of KF41, some with Nera, some with 35mm, some with iron fist aps.
Germany shouldnt get the hungarian variant correct and that is ok.
But we should get one of the several others that exist.
Do we even have rhose in the game yet, i am not finding them
But other examples challenger 2 E (EXPORT) vickers mk7 , chinta vt4a1. All those are purely export variants that thise nations didnt use but still have in their tank line
Then yes they should be definitly be added to the US.
If the US community isnt fighting for them because they are low tier its pn them isnt it?
Some people do but believe it or not, people asking for low tier stuff gets drowned out by the screaming for top tier items.
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Although the 9M was on the F.3 during Operation Granby, which iirc pre-dates the radar we currently have fitted to it. (They ditched it in favour of the Li when they realised their funny Dechirping modification was basically frying the 9Ms)
The Late one is getting it next patch because ASRAAM would be far too powerful for it.
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I just wounder why every ingame nation so far got their F-16, Gripen, Su-27 etc… Via subtrees and other vague additions like brochure suggestions. For everyone Gajin found a way to somehow add something. Some minor nations even have now Mig-29, Gripen and F-16…all in one TT. Even China got a F-16 via Taiwan Express.
Just Germany is stuck with an cough Phantom.
Why is there no F-16 for German TT? And whats the point to even add another Phantom into the current War Thunder meta? Its so DOA like never anything has been. Completly pointless addition which should have happened like 6 months ago, now its too late.
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Yes, because if we take a look at the operators, none of them are currently in game anywhere. I don’t see an Omani, or a Pakistani, SUB tree. The Vickers Mk. 7 was a prototype- no one bought it.
In game, the only relevant examples are the Low tier US planes and the KF41. No other export tank has a dedicated tree or sub tree to go to- hence why they go to the nations that built them, since it is the next best thing. But because Hungary is in game, it goes there, since they actually operate the vehicle. Overall, it makes sense.
And again; why are you arguing for the Lynx and not a Puma with Spikes? Other than “for completions sake” (because quite frankly you all do not need the Lynx one the Puma gets spikes, as your tech tree will already be complete at that point).
You will see I corrected myself. They both are Hungarian. The German army does not use them.
We do, and what’s more- every time I suggest also adding them to the US tree, I get shut down saying “but you never used them they were export only”. And conveniently, it is mainly German players telling me this.
Here’s proof.
This is mental gymnastics at their best. They are German developed, but in Hungarian service (only KF41). They are still German at the end of the day regardless of who ends up operating them… better yet, ever seen KF31 be operated by anybody else but Germany?
And again; why are you arguing for the Lynx and not a Puma with Spikes?
Why do you ask for things to be added, then?
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Same stands for many KF41 variants only 1 specific 1 is for hungaria.
All others would go to Germany.
Because we want and can do. It is our right since it is one of our vehicles sinple as that
Wrong again. Hungary doesnt even use KF31.
They are plenty of Kf41 prototypes or declined proposed versions for australia (which differs from hungarian one plenty that decided to go for the redback instead.
Under all rules those would go to germany.
Just not the specific hungarian one.
All the other named kf41 variants were developed and produced by germany not hungary and arent in hungarian service either.
You trying to proof that but censor the name.
So you how do you know or wanna prove its a german main?
And yes i think the low tier planes definitly should go to US as well. Its just that not many US people fight for them because its low tier and not that intresting compared to high tier vehicles.
Those nobody knows about that issue.
Look at the french nearly everyone is aware of the DF105 issue and the Sk 105 because continue to fight for it and make themself notable as well
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Because the thread it is in, the title is “the unending amount of missing German aircraft”. I don’t need to full blast the individual on a different thread, however you are welcome to read there.
So does the US have a claim to every US vehicle outside of the tech tree? Can I now ask for the F-104G, or the CL.13s? The Sabredogs (which regardless actually we should have)? What about the Leo 2AV, since the US trialed it?
Just because we WANT something doesn’t mean we get it, for better or for worse.
What about the British and their Chally issue? Or the Bramses turret ring? We could talk about the countless other issues that receive plenty of attention yet don’t have an answer.
You are missing the point the greek or australian KF41 that got trialed but never put into service are options for the German Tech tree because no one got them and they are still German built
Ah yes, the “German main” who’s highest ranking German vehicle is the BF109Z (With a whopping 6 battles in it). If you actually took 2 seconds to look at that guys profile, it is clear as day he is not a German main, but a Japanese main. But of course it is easer to accuse people without any proof.
And you’re commenting here, does that make you a German main?
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Yes. It does.
But my point is why? Why does Germany so desperately need them? Why not the PUMA with Spikes, which is infinitely better? What makes the KF so appeasing that THAT is what you need over something domestic and in service?
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Notice the difference here; we ask for vehicles that will either;
A) Fix a capability gap there’s no domestic answer for
B) Were actually developed for Germany
2AV ain’t a fit for either.
But hey, if you wanna go down that rabbit hole we can also ask for F-18 & F-15s since WTD 61 trialed them.
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There is a domestic answer. That’s ridiculous.
The 2AV was intended for US service and modified as such.
And
I have seen multiple threads with people asking for this or stuff like this. So that rabbit hole is very much already being explored.
KF41 is one of the fastest tracked vehicles and keeps some interesting stuff between it’s gameplay ability being able to play more aggresively and reach positions faster than the PUMA + it looks cool as heck specially greek/ australian version and one issue with PUMA S1 is that it can only carry 2 spikes meanwhile KF41 can carry 4 or more