Lets talk about the state of Germany

what did the playbase of china do? i missed that. can you elaborate please?

This Roland SPAA and the Flak truck with VT-1 are totally useless. The Roland 3 can’t even follow maneuvering helis. The whole evenhing and I didn’t got a single kills with it. Almost the same for the Flaraktruck, but at least the VT-1 can down helis. But didn’t manage to shot down a jet so far. Its not that they’re maneuvering…the missiles just don’t follow the target. Its falls behind, and starts tumbling away…even if the target is just 8km away.

Everything Germany has is somehow not working ingame.

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Somehow ignoring that those missiles are French I see.

At least the French thing has a lower BR. But its probably a general issue, except the russian SPAA’s.

yeah, because it has limited elevation and lacks tracking radar, not like it even matters as there isnt a single 10.0 tank in the french TT

Well, the same way French players are ignoring that the HAP never operated HOT-3s (or any other ATGM for that matter) :p

I don’t see how that’s comparable in this regard but okay. Are you trying to say that the VT1 be removed the the FlakRakRad?

Well, they kinda are comparable. Both never operated by the vehicles that use them in WT, but are here for balance.

To put it back on point, I wasn’t trying to advocate that the Rolands get removed from Germany. It’s to point out this quote

is ignoring that the weapon systems he’s complaining about is French made weaponry. A nation of which suffers severe neglect. There is reason why #GermanMains are memed while the French tree is memed.

Okay lets remove the VT1 and give it the HFK/KV that was the german contemporary to the VT1

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This is still besides the point.

is ignoring that the weapon systems he’s complaining about is French made weaponry. A nation of which suffers severe neglect. There is reason why #GermanMains are memed while the French tree is memed.

Well, he isn’t wrong that in this case, as it’s not working as it should. The fact the missile itself was designed by France is technically speaking, beside the point when it comes to the OP’s intention. My point also wasn’t about “hurr durr remove it”, my point was to show that nations at times receive things on vehicles that never used them and that it’s done for balance.

Overall I prolly missed your point, so, soz.

I dont have either of them (why would i spend millions of SL on a situational vehicle that can only take out air targets over getting an mbt)

But i look at the flarakrad and the pantsir and think “man why on earth are these the same BR, theres a blatant power difference”

Buuut i dont have them so thats just my opinion.

I mean SPAAs are mandatory since nobody besides you will play them and if you dont play SPAA somebody on the enemy team will go on a 10 kill streak in a Helicopter, so thats the reason you spent millions of SL on a situational vehicle.

thats not just your opinion thats a fact, if you compare their performance on paper the Flakradrad is worse then the Pantsir in basically every point.

???
The Roland is quite bad yea but the VT is very capable currently.

Only Kronshtadt 's hull survived the war reasonably intact being 10% complete in 1945
and with ships you cannot say production vehicle because usually ships are made as individual vessels except for class based ones.
so no its not a ‘production’ vessel.

again, we havent seen its production nor have there been reports. if you have em share em.

AND never serviced

definitely never serviced

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But theres something like a Kronstadt class battlecruiser .) This one was not an individual vessel, It was a planned leadship of her own class. Project 69 … a never finished prototype.

Oh please, cut the BS. The F-16AJ is NOT the YF-16

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The vertical stabiliser is wrong, the nose is wrong, lights at the side of the intake are wrong. Anyone else fancy a game of spot the difference?

If anything, it’s a copy and paste of the F-16A with the ADF’s radar, which still does not exist.

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There is no “the” YF-16, there are many YF-16s, including the variant that is WT’s F-16AJ.

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Show me a picture of the variant