Lets talk about the state of Germany

Thats probably why they outright switched off the spall liners of the 2A7V and put extreme spallmodifiers on all Leopard 2 armor plates/arrays?

Its like playing a Leopard 1 now. One hit and game over, even horribly bad aim gets now rewarded with dead crews. These spall cones are idiotic.

Nah Sweden and Russia take that title. They are the most handheld nations at top tier.

As much as I hate the 2A7V just straight up MBT diffing all other nato/western MBTs except sweden, this is the first time since the original 2A6 that Germany has been in this position.

1- ERA + tracks.
2- ERA + fuel tank + bounced off high angle mild steel.
3- Barrel.
4- ERA & overlapping plates; maybe tracks.

Couldn’t pause for more analysis.
Either way that’s a lot of fumbled shots in a row… well fumbled by my preferences, partially cause those are shots I’ve never nor ever want to make myself.

Who’s willing to take bets that the F-4F ICE will be a premium?

Don’t give them any ideas.

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I’d love to have this kind of spall on my Leopard 2s mantlet…

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Nah we can’t have it
Leopards are so op and heard to kill /s

Spoiler

Its going to be a TT vehicle next month
but the Leopard 2A4M CAN will be a Premium

I’d love to have this kind of spall on all my tanks when I get shot.

Somehow if I get shot like that I always lose 1-2 crew.

Hey, at least you’re not getting OHK’d lol!

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Now, Germany needs a strong, good 2A4 improved version
Leopart 2MLU, Leopart 2A4T1, Leopart 2NG…
We need these things

leopard 2a4 with c tech and dm33 would be enough…

But the rubots would struggle then more then before already

We need either PUMA fix and new support tanks like light tanks of tank destroyers like wiesel 1 MELLS

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I feel that Germany now lacks backup

Of course, it’s good, but it’s good for 2A7V backup

no point thinking about that, that would just give them another reason to nerf leopards…

According to my armor viewer the side spall liners of the 2A7V do no reduce spall anymore. The ke rod exits exactly there and its almost a APHE like spall cone.

At this state I wounder why its visible in armor viewer? The spall liner is layered there… But why doesn’t it affect spall? Did they include a line of code to switch it off?

Well thats not how spall liners work. The effect should be as dramatic as seen in the T-90M.

Its just unfair. And why is the T-80 that good in preventing spall? Can some tech mods look into this? Makes no sense.

Leopards just have claymores lining the gun mantlet and breach. I thought everyone already knew this?

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That’s definitely a problem everyone has except the US and Russia, maybe Sweden as well. Otherwise the premium aircraft available being copy-paste only serve as a tool to grind and not something that is actually fun to play.

The F-4F ICE being a premium would certainly be a very bad joke however.