Lets talk about the state of Germany

Never seen a more wrong statement in my life. Judging by my experience, which is a lot, top tier USSR will survive side shots like it’s nothing, turn to you and proceed to one tap you.

but this its absurd, an apfsds isnt APHE so idk why devs tought this was some form of bug

It happens quite a lot when I fight T72/80/90. The really big issue I have with them though is the lack of spalling especially on the BVM which has no spall liners.

Leos literally do the same thing, jesus christ.

yeah i still have issues with lack of spalling wich its absurd, their ERA’s will just eat spall like if they were spall liners

On very very rare occasions.

Not even close dude, where’s your head? Literally everyone is talking about this issue here. HUGE SPALL CONES OF 2A7V and rest, holy hell.

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Yep, all of their ERA is dumb.

in my own experience fighting leo’s like i’ve said before PSO’s or even 122B+'s they dont eat spall nearly as much nor have the volumetrics issues

He’s got a point. Leopard 2s (mantlet especially) spalling is egregious post-nerf.

This CR 3 hit the bottom of my hull plate, but it produced enough spall to nuke my entire crew - I’ve yet to see this happen to any other MBT. This was a bottom of the barrel shot, but he still got rewarded for it.

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Your the one who is annoyed cause you wanted to post screen shot and claim you didn’t mean anything and then argue with someone that it didn’t mean anything

Volumetric is just horrible in general.
I got hit today in my challenger into the breech, the dart bounced of the breech inside, turned 90° and killed my entire crew.

Volumetric has made me want hull-break to be back in the game :)))))))))

Is better? Yes but it model and armor profile still unfinished at worst it supposed to work the same way as Strv122 (even should be stronger) not weaker what that mean? Well 2A7 you’re facing now are bugged tank that underperfrom

The LFP is not a reliable one shot. 75% of the time you’ll either get the driver and engine or only the engine, because, for some reason, the ammo carousel catches all of the shrapnel that would in other tanks kill the turret crew.

How is T–80s in War Thunder getting their turrets flung more than real life relevant to the topic “Lets talk about the state of Germany”?

lol Found the dude that can’t pen Conqueror or Maus in the pixel shots anymore.

Yeah it can happen

That’s a ricochet shot. Annoying in a different way.

Remember according to Smin’s statement it was based on multiple reports and studies, if you take it of course :D

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This discredits the type of wars being fought, the army utilizing them, the army opposing them, the territory being fought on, the logistics behind the operated vehicle, the crew.

Put an Abrams on island hopping missions and see it suffer there. Would that make it bad?

My point isn’t that Russian equipment is better than that of NATO or even good to begin with, my point is simply that you have a flawed way of looking at things.