Lets talk about the state of Germany

He’s got a point. Leopard 2s (mantlet especially) spalling is egregious post-nerf.

This CR 3 hit the bottom of my hull plate, but it produced enough spall to nuke my entire crew - I’ve yet to see this happen to any other MBT. This was a bottom of the barrel shot, but he still got rewarded for it.

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Your the one who is annoyed cause you wanted to post screen shot and claim you didn’t mean anything and then argue with someone that it didn’t mean anything

Volumetric is just horrible in general.
I got hit today in my challenger into the breech, the dart bounced of the breech inside, turned 90° and killed my entire crew.

Volumetric has made me want hull-break to be back in the game :)))))))))

Is better? Yes but it model and armor profile still unfinished at worst it supposed to work the same way as Strv122 (even should be stronger) not weaker what that mean? Well 2A7 you’re facing now are bugged tank that underperfrom

The LFP is not a reliable one shot. 75% of the time you’ll either get the driver and engine or only the engine, because, for some reason, the ammo carousel catches all of the shrapnel that would in other tanks kill the turret crew.

How is T–80s in War Thunder getting their turrets flung more than real life relevant to the topic “Lets talk about the state of Germany”?

lol Found the dude that can’t pen Conqueror or Maus in the pixel shots anymore.

Yeah it can happen

That’s a ricochet shot. Annoying in a different way.

Remember according to Smin’s statement it was based on multiple reports and studies, if you take it of course :D

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This discredits the type of wars being fought, the army utilizing them, the army opposing them, the territory being fought on, the logistics behind the operated vehicle, the crew.

Put an Abrams on island hopping missions and see it suffer there. Would that make it bad?

My point isn’t that Russian equipment is better than that of NATO or even good to begin with, my point is simply that you have a flawed way of looking at things.

It’s just down to a large amount of RNG.

Some days you go around reliably one-shotting anything Soviet/Russian, other days you get two cases of carousel ammunition absorbing spalling and not detonating in a row.

That struck about 2-3 propellant charges, yet did nothing.

How old is this game? 2-3 months? Because I don’t see sensor vision button.

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As i remember Russia using it own manufacture tanks which they supposed to know better than anyone how to utilize their tanks yet still total failure at using them as the manufacture country which exactly know their flaws of they product batter than anyone?

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Producing a vehicle has nothing to do with knowing how to operate them.

What the current war in Ukraine highlights mostly has little to do with vehicle designs themselves: it mostly highlights Russian inefficienties in their high-command inter-unit communication, such as that between frontline and artillery forces.
This has a much greater effect on vehicle efficienty as opposed to any vehicle flaws.
Alongside this the losses can also be attributed to Ukrainians possessing the right tools to deal with these vehicles as well as possessing the knowledge on how to utilize these, from Javelin and NLAW to precision artillery strikes

That isn’t to say Russian vehicles are all rainbows and sunshine: obvious flaws have been seen, with easy ones to point to being reverse gears and in regards to crew survivability.

I hope you learn to look at bigger pictures before drawing premature conclusions about things.

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F-4F ICE is on its way, SOOON

what ?

its coming

source or something ?

the fact that AARH missiles are coming next patch and the ICE is the only “”““viable””“” german option