Trampled by what exactly? One 2A7V good and playable? Or one of the worst air defense systems for 11.7? Or maybe the Tornado ASSTA 1 log, the only German attack aircraft unable to dodge the missiles? I was shot down at the height of the Strela-10 cd and the Japanese 81st. Only the Eorofighter Typhoon remained in Germany as an attack aircraft on the shooting range. I don’t mind getting a separate version with a postscript (U-Stripped down). That would be with a normal LTX attack aircraft with more than 4x GBU-16. According to the armament of this aircraft, it would be possible to issue x2 IRIS-T, from 4 large GBU, up to 12 GBU-16, while the thermal imager will be Gen 3, and the ability to hang Brimstone up to 18 pieces.
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Theres also a version of this with the skyranger turret on it, the Skynex or something
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Mantis the Skyranger follows a similar concept but its taller
Low rank, also could see some more love, Pz IIIs and some other nation tanks, have quite low turret speed, even tho there are no tests to them and other placeholders are often faster, this is quite overseen in general.
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Huh? İts the second best air defence system after Pantsir also it has VT-1 missiles that has never used in real life service.
Tornado is more then capable of dodging most in coming SAM missiles problem is nothing can dodge Strela’s missiles, not even Gripen or F-16C, same goes for Type-81 as well.
İm pretty sure Germany will recieve Swiss F-18 in order get pars on with other nations just like how Uk got Gripen from SAAF.
Aside from Leopard2A7V and PSO armor you have nothing to complain about, stop over victimizing entire German Tech tree.
puma ifv too :(
That thing is Lost cause sadly, thats why i didnt even mention.
Lets accept it gaijin will always keep back Nato vehicles because they cant accept the idea where Russian vehicles can be worse then Nato vehicles so they artificially keep them nerfed.
My lovely F-4F still ain’t got 9Ls >:(
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My F-4F sitting at the hanger and getting rusted ever since Tornado added :(
Jokes aside even tho i dont agree why it doesnt get Aim-9L’s i kinda understand it.
Two things im waiting for German Air tree: Latest modernasation of Tornado and Eurofighter Typhoon.
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FlakRakRad would be third best imo, second best would be ItO 90M
Both are basically using same missile systems, only advantage that ITO has is the able to launch multiple missiles in heat scenarios without reloading.
Although i agree on part where we can put ITO to second place.
yeah if we would rank the missiles VT1s would be second place but having 8 missiles ready makes a difference, but thats just my opinion.
also the radar is slightly better but that is not a big difference, 27 vertical vs 18 vertical
mhm Tor-M1 is also not bad but VT1s are better then 9M331s
Thats why i agreed that ITO should take the second place.
All Leopards are still seriously good vehicles. they still have good turret armor, firepower and coming from the Abrams my Leopard 2A6 on a non expert level 96 crew has been more survivable than my SEPv2 on an expert level 120 crew.
It’s just that the 2A7V is the best all round MBT as of now. Sure the Strv 122s beat it in armor, but no other MBT offers the same combination of mobility, armor, firepower and optics.
Lmao even. Let me know when you tried Israel and Italy, you will feel what true pain is in regard to SPAA. Hell the TOR is also only really good at further ranges.
I mean there isn’t really any aircraft that can dodge those japanese missiles, but I will give you this point.
Yeah maybe in a year or more when it can actually somewhat be balanced.
In general. If you would play multiple nations you would see that it’s just Sweden and Germany dominating at the moment with a little flavor of Russia thrown in here and there. Buffing one of these nations, besides fixes like armor and acceleration, will only cause even more unbalance.
ah sorry misread it, my bad
No worries.
To be 100% fair. 122 beats it in both armour and mobility. 2A7Vs advantages are firepower and optics.
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İ didnt unlock neither of them yet, which ones becomes heavier after mine protection kit?
2A7V (66.5 tons).
I tested actually a number of them, inlcuding; 2A4, 2A6, Strv 122A, 2A7V without the mineplate.
2A7V always showed the worst results in terms of acceleration, and of course, the top speed is lower.
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