That thing is Lost cause sadly, thats why i didnt even mention.
Lets accept it gaijin will always keep back Nato vehicles because they cant accept the idea where Russian vehicles can be worse then Nato vehicles so they artificially keep them nerfed.
My lovely F-4F still ain’t got 9Ls >:(
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My F-4F sitting at the hanger and getting rusted ever since Tornado added :(
Jokes aside even tho i dont agree why it doesnt get Aim-9L’s i kinda understand it.
Two things im waiting for German Air tree: Latest modernasation of Tornado and Eurofighter Typhoon.
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FlakRakRad would be third best imo, second best would be ItO 90M
Both are basically using same missile systems, only advantage that ITO has is the able to launch multiple missiles in heat scenarios without reloading.
Although i agree on part where we can put ITO to second place.
yeah if we would rank the missiles VT1s would be second place but having 8 missiles ready makes a difference, but thats just my opinion.
also the radar is slightly better but that is not a big difference, 27 vertical vs 18 vertical
mhm Tor-M1 is also not bad but VT1s are better then 9M331s
Thats why i agreed that ITO should take the second place.
All Leopards are still seriously good vehicles. they still have good turret armor, firepower and coming from the Abrams my Leopard 2A6 on a non expert level 96 crew has been more survivable than my SEPv2 on an expert level 120 crew.
It’s just that the 2A7V is the best all round MBT as of now. Sure the Strv 122s beat it in armor, but no other MBT offers the same combination of mobility, armor, firepower and optics.
Lmao even. Let me know when you tried Israel and Italy, you will feel what true pain is in regard to SPAA. Hell the TOR is also only really good at further ranges.
I mean there isn’t really any aircraft that can dodge those japanese missiles, but I will give you this point.
Yeah maybe in a year or more when it can actually somewhat be balanced.
In general. If you would play multiple nations you would see that it’s just Sweden and Germany dominating at the moment with a little flavor of Russia thrown in here and there. Buffing one of these nations, besides fixes like armor and acceleration, will only cause even more unbalance.
ah sorry misread it, my bad
No worries.
To be 100% fair. 122 beats it in both armour and mobility. 2A7Vs advantages are firepower and optics.
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İ didnt unlock neither of them yet, which ones becomes heavier after mine protection kit?
2A7V (66.5 tons).
I tested actually a number of them, inlcuding; 2A4, 2A6, Strv 122A, 2A7V without the mineplate.
2A7V always showed the worst results in terms of acceleration, and of course, the top speed is lower.
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Fucking hell.
İt got worse armor,worse mobility while it should be the opposite.
This is not crippling, its a murder ffs.
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Eh I don’t expect you take me serious it sarcasm
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Fair enough. The only ones or the new tanks I have unlocked yet are the SEPv2 and 2A7V. And even with a low level crew on the 2A7V I can already say that the SEPv2 is an absolute joke compared to the 2A7V (even though I can still do well in it).
It’s still weird how the Strv 122s are lighter while having more armor. Gaijin truely has some sort of fetish for making Sweden the best.
Which doesn’t bode well for the Challenger 3 TD when I finally grind that thing.
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Go figure lol.
It’s still weird how the Strv 122s are lighter while having more armor.
This is War Thunder, we do not apply logic here remember!
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Well, this is not a big surprise, 2A7V have an heavier cannon, an apu, and im pretty sure the reinforced drivetrain does some effect too.
Problem is, it should have better armor, while weighting more than the 122, while currently it does not.
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gonna be a little bit before typhoon. the F4F ICE we’ll be up next alongside some other tornado upgrades