Now that the PzH’s M107 muzzle velocity got fixed, what is the point of the tier 4 155mm OE F3 round? I literally just researched it and now it’s obsolete…
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propably gonna get replaced with the L51A1
dont complain about that thing mate, its got a LRF and a 7.5 second reload at 7.7 , it will inevitably go up in BR
More like the 2A7s/122s should piss off to 12.3, the M1A2 should move to 12.0 and the M1A1 HC/CB should lose M829A2 and stay at 11.7.
Also give the 2PL DM53 to make it 11.7 worthy and for the love of everything move the VT4A1 down, that thing is just sad.
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The sheer amount of brimstones makes it annoying to fight. If you launch a bunch of them spread out just enough it will screw with the Pantsir lock a lot. The radar lock, and thus your screen, will conintuously bounce between the different brimstones making it annying to shoot them down.
you dont think the 2PL is worthy of 11.7? i find it find there, but on the topic of dm53. seeing as thats what it does actually fire (i thought it didnt n a dude fired some spreadsheets and docs my way to show it fires 53) then it should get the 53 and either move to 12.0 or stay 11.7
im just about to get the VTA4 once i get the ztz99
agreed.
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YEP
Nah any premium or squadrons don’t deserve batter they don’t earn sht.
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whilst the ballistic nerf of MG 151/20 shells made those inefficient like hell
Was this the one during realshatter, the accuracy nerf, or a different one? Those rounds have been nerfed so many times in the past two years it’s hard to keep track, and every time I hear about it I worry there’s been a new one.
Some time ago across all german ammo, the drag was heavily increased, for Mg 151/20 and Mk 101/103/108 the drag was doubled.
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Even the Mk 103? The others I knew about, but I thought they just nerfed the accuracy on the 103, not the drag as well.
Well it uses the same shells as the Mk 108, and some more.
This is called a skill issue
2PL is superior to any top tier tank Britain has. Still blows my mind the CR2 BK a CR2 with no add on armour and a buggy APS system that can save you from slow darts and ATGMS.
And the 2E a faster CR2 with no improvement to armour on the CR2…Are Britain’s top tier tanks…
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The 2PL is about on par with the normal CR2s , its major issue is DM43, which isnt a bad round, just not a great round .
the tanks over all mobility and armour coverage. gen 2 thermals and banging optics make it a fun tank, but its still a 2A4 hull man.
The BN and 2E are IMO slightly better, but thats due to 1 being faster and the other having the best APS in game.
The 2PL isnt a bad 11.7 rn as it sits. if it got DM53 it would be better than the CR2s though
L27A1 just isn’t hitting right now and while it is not an up armoured Leo2 as such it has a far more resilient turret and mantlet.
Couple it with the excellent Leopard 2 crew spacing and mobility It has a lot going for it
I know the tank very well, ive got it, and it is not better than the Cr2 BN or 2E , due to round, reload, (believe optics) being worse as well as overall armour coverage on the turret
2k is probably my favorite leopard, this news has broken me
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2K has a place in each of our hearts.
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Entire hull armor of 2PL is susceptible to even M833 while Chally 2’s upper frontal plate offers much grater protection, not to mention 2PL has huge gunner sight weakspot while Chally2 doesnt suffer from same issue, lets not forget 2PL still didnt recieved its Spall Liners.
2PL’s biggest advantages are mobility and blowout panels compare to Chally2’s.
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This is a pointless comparision.
Heres why the weak spots arent accurate.
That armour shows yes the upper front plate can resist shots it frequently doesnt. The round if you are lucky enough to ricochet it bounces straight up and takes out your breach.
The CR2 turret ring also is huge and not modelled in the protection analysis. CR2 also has no spall liners
And its ammo is stored in centre of the tank.
Your CR2 is also very easy to overpressure with HE even 57mm on the 2S38 can and does do it.
The key difference is this is as good as the CR2/3 gets. The Leopard 2PL enjoyers have the 2A5/2A6 and 2A7 to enjoy.