Yeah I did some more reading and saw I was wildly incorrect, however I didn’t remember to change my post so now I just look silly. They were variants of each other.
P-66, P-35, CW-21. Just as some examples.
3 versions, 2 of them would be copy paste so just cut it to 2, one with thick NERA and composite and a 35mm and the other one with medium sized NERA together with the classical 30mm
call that on gaijin that’s straight up bs from their part, im talking about more modern stuff aswell, for example america recieved an M1A1 AIM wich its an export abrams
If France somehow get Leopard 2 I’ll call it total BS
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BeNeLux sub-tree. Last I checked both Belgium and the Neathland use Leos so they’ll get them.
BeNeLux should have been its own tree but Gaijin doesn’t do research(as seen by some of Gaijin’s claims). Leos are also one of the most exported MBTs in the world so nations that used them will get them
So i guess gaijin give German biggest FY in war thunder history then (even dutch have more military connections more than France)
I wouldn’t say that, there are nations being treated worse than this update. (and Gaijin is one of the 3 best nations in game fighting them is an auto loss. )
Beside Subtrees are picked based on WW2(else the UK wouldn’t have ZA, Italy Hungry as nether make sense bar WW2 for their host trees). And it’s always be BeNeLux together that what all the suggestion have been
The Benelux tree was mainly to appease the whiners here in the forums, there have been people begging for one as long as i can remember and tbh it really hasn’t lived up to the hype, all it does to benefit France since it gives them an F-16 with features missing from far more modern variants of the aircraft in other trees, I still am at a loss as to why the ROCAF block 20 MLU can’t receive any of it’s real life weaponry outside of the sparrows and some dumb bombs.
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That’s because Gaijin has done it dirty and only added only one of its many domestic things along with making it a sub-tree. It would have been better if it wasn’t like how Gaijin has done all sub-trees: “glorified band-aids” that exist to boost the host nation and not represent the sub-nations.
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Most likely because they want an ‘early’ and a ‘late’ Block 20 MLU version of the ROCAF F-16 before adding the F-16V. This is because in the beginning when these aircraft were delivered the US did not add all the equipment to fire ARH-missiles as the PRoC didn’t have ARH-missiles either. Aim-9M was also not delivered at the start of the 1990s (although sources vary on this, early models of the F-16 in ROC service used aim-9p4). (Basically the same treatment the British Tornado F3 will get)
Or they just don’t want the ROCAF having the best planes when it’s a ‘sub’-nation and not the ‘host’-nation like Stormrijder suggested, although at the moment Hungary has the best plane in the Italian Tech Tree.
Or it’s something else entirely! Speculation is key.
I was talking about their comment on the BeNeLux. Tho it can be seen that ROC/Taiwan could be a sub-tree but, I think it’s more both are China.
That’s probably best for political reasons.
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Same with britain at the moment also gripen is still their best overall fighter.
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They both are german.
There is variius versions of KF41, some with Nera, some with 35mm, some with iron fist aps.
Germany shouldnt get the hungarian variant correct and that is ok.
But we should get one of the several others that exist.
Do we even have rhose in the game yet, i am not finding them
But other examples challenger 2 E (EXPORT) vickers mk7 , chinta vt4a1. All those are purely export variants that thise nations didnt use but still have in their tank line
Then yes they should be definitly be added to the US.
If the US community isnt fighting for them because they are low tier its pn them isnt it?
Some people do but believe it or not, people asking for low tier stuff gets drowned out by the screaming for top tier items.
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Although the 9M was on the F.3 during Operation Granby, which iirc pre-dates the radar we currently have fitted to it. (They ditched it in favour of the Li when they realised their funny Dechirping modification was basically frying the 9Ms)
The Late one is getting it next patch because ASRAAM would be far too powerful for it.
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I just wounder why every ingame nation so far got their F-16, Gripen, Su-27 etc… Via subtrees and other vague additions like brochure suggestions. For everyone Gajin found a way to somehow add something. Some minor nations even have now Mig-29, Gripen and F-16…all in one TT. Even China got a F-16 via Taiwan Express.
Just Germany is stuck with an cough Phantom.
Why is there no F-16 for German TT? And whats the point to even add another Phantom into the current War Thunder meta? Its so DOA like never anything has been. Completly pointless addition which should have happened like 6 months ago, now its too late.
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