RT source is from a guy who says he worked on the f15 and a10 but he didn’t
Yeah Spey or however you spell it. It’s funny though how people still eat that all up to this day. Definitely not comparable to the T14 program and definitely off topic from the leopard 2 lol.
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Try 10.3 and get teamed with Germany. PzBtl 123 Leo’s everywhere that basically just hit W, shoot a few times for form, and die uselessly and then leave the battle because it’s the one tank in their lineup, or they spawn whatever low tier abomination they decided to bring.
that T-54 bounce up into the stratosphere…
- Actually, if it’s truly 20 builts T-14 and each batch of them has some improvements with more “domestics products”, i’m happy with it, unlike Abram X which is a used Diesel Engines Prototype Abrams as a test bed for M1A3 (on papers btw) since there will be no SepV4 (V3 with full equip has the weight of Chal 2 OES and i don’t mind shooting the neck since no luck with the UFP), Britain with no future domestics tanks, Germany still hesitate with new KF51 because now the K2 from Korea too good on p/p for too many other Nato members.
- Since we saw too many laughing when Ru uses Cages and put ERA on every corner of the tanks and make it ugly as a joke for Media (asks Merkava and Type 10), we gonna saw more cages on future tanks from both sides and we gonna see more comparison between “NATO cages and Ru Cages” instead of “Nato ERA vs Ru ERA”.
- Also, talks about the Leo 2A7, it’s just good for them, since the dominant of 2A6 and first 2A5, they still deservs it because it’s something unique, i’m not having problem with it since the side and the driver hatch still better “1 shot” then shooting the LFP.
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As far as i know standard leo 2A4 can’t shoot DM53 without breach and recoil buffer modification. which was done in the 2A5, PL, and newer variants.
9.3 battles during the event are hell, made a step back to 8.7-9.0.
Leo123, M1 KVT, TURMS-T, 2S38, ZTZ99A (p), M1128 wolfpack, it’s premiums galore, some use a back up but most ODL.
Really strange thing to say when I quoted the source of my information.
DOT&E reports that the F-35 program still has 845 unresolved deficiencies with six still classified as Category I, or design flaws so serious that it “may cause death, severe injury, or severe occupational illness; may cause loss or major damage to a weapon system; critically restricts the combat readiness capabilities of the using organization; or result in a production line stoppage.
It’s a ridiculous joke of a plane. Extremely expensive, 25% availability rate even after 20 years of bug fixes and upgrades. If any “Eastern” equipment were claimed with a hint of credibility to be so poorly performing, it would be the only thing anyone talks about.
I wish I could get paid huge amounts of money to design planes that hilariously crash themselves for trivial reasons. (Clearly another software failure)
I haven’t even seen anything from RT in years since it became sort of obvious that they are a mouthpiece, like many media sources. I’m purely citing POGO or are they paid shills of the Russian MoD?
All POGO is pointing out is that the companies making F-35 are paid giant sums of money to fix the problems, which they either don’t bother to fix because they get paid either way (minor side effect of the unique relationship between military contractors and governments) , or they are too incompetent to fix said problems.
This is basically the main point, whatever you think of T-14, it’s clearly a project that’s under quite intensive development and testing, far more so than Abrams X or KF51 etc. You can wake me up when 20 of any other current MBT prototypes have been sent to troops and even
Live fire trials eh? Clearly somewhere imbetween single prototype for driving around an expo and F-35 mass prototype production despite severe flaws.
the RIA Novosti sources seem to basically consistently quote people essentially saying “It’s a nice design, but it’s too expensive.” Also having an experimental unit trundling around seems a pretty low-risk way to see if you can practically deploy it, perform maintainance etc. Reminds me of the many times in the past a handful of experimental vehicles have been deployed to some degree to see how they fare.
Again, I’m reading RIA Novosti in this case specifically because they are a mouthpiece of sorts. You guys trust when a manufacturer pamphlet says stuff about a weapon, right? So here I’m trusting more or less the same.
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“Electrical Battle Warfare”
“5th generation”
Proceed to have:
And with the coperation of what size ?
- Budget and resource from NATO + American + Turkey (banned for buying S-400, it’s ridiculous, sound like typical Falkland’s habit btw), Austris, Can, Den, Italy, …
- Compare to the Ru with what, 4 factories ?
Still F-35 is overall a good representation for a 5th gen planes, it just need time to finished like all other “new generation weapons”.
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It’s handy if said nation has the capabilities to actually produce a significant number of them. I like to compare it to tanks like the Tiger II and Maus.
Both were prototypes/being produced but were pressed through every stage by delusional leadership. And there was hardly any capability to mass produce either. The T-14 is in overglorified prototype stage.
Also you talked about firing tests, you know the AbramsX turret and gun systems also underwent firing tests right?
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Well maybe one more
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I was mostly intending to invoke Dicker Max, which two were built and sent to the eastern front for sh*ts and giggles.
The Russian Federation seems to be trying to avoid making that mistake. Same with how many Abrams replacement programs have been done. Clearly trying to look very hard at what kind of options are available and evaluate them.
You can see it as either “10 years without being able to mass produce” or “10 years of intensive testing to evaluate and optimise for mass production” nobody will know which until the vehicle enters service, which has been claimed several times. Who knows if it ever will.
I’d say there’s a bit of a difference from a turret on a platform at a testing range (which is what you’re referring to I assume, since that’s the footage that exists) and RIA Novosti stating that T-14 has at least fought in combat.
For all we know this means shelling some defensive position from near the cannons maximum range or something, but it represents something much closer to actual use than some quite sterile basic testing in a highly controlled environment.
I’d say it’s about as hyped up as any of these things.
EMBT and KF-51, along with most of the “Anti-T-14” designs shown so far seem to be fairly mild vehicles, something like slapping a new turret on a 40 year old hull and calling it a day. Same-old same-old. It’s just piecing together components that have already existed, 130mm/140mm guns tested decades back. I doubt it’s going to be as powerful as such a radical redesign from scratch like T-14 is comparitively.
I should say I’m takling about hypothetical implementation in War Thunder.
As far as War Thunder is concerned, it is very sad that these NATO vehicles are mostly tame or just not very suitable. M10 Booker and XM1202 are just not remotely similar, M1E3 I really doubt would fight well against T-14.
But like I said, we probably have an issue where T-90M 2023 or whatever is likely not competitive against M1E3 but M1E3 isn’t competitive against T-14. Not sure how Gaijin will approach this.
Hope that thing can be implemented, but seem like in the future we gonna only have Britain teapot slapped on German bread.
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possibly
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Which is based on both assumptions on the M1E3 (which nobody know much about) and assumptions on the T-14 (Russian military having a history of overhyping their stuff).
There is simply no way to know this. The SEPv3 will likely already perform fine against the T-14 irl.
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Everyone overhyped and Russian level not even close to the US since the B-52.
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The fact that they were supposed to be at the same level as the US and China in terms of military power already shows about the level of overhyping Russia does.
EMBT, is only a proof of collaboration of gwrmany and france. And jokes on you KF-51 Evo is ordered by hungary and starting official production
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To deny that Russia is one of the most powerful military entities is pure delusion.
It’s a shadow of the Soviet Union, but it’s still one of a handful of nations with advanced domestic production of equipment in pretty much every sphere of weaponry.
It’s one of a handful of nations that can even construct a nuclear powered naval vessel as an example.
Also a pretty major weapons exporter in pretty much every aspect of weaponry.
Pretty much all nations pale in comparsion to the US which has long had de-facto complete economic dominance across the globe and has been a de-facto empire since before the states were even united.
Nobody should ever doubt that the US has the single most developed arms industry on the earth.
This being said.
The entire point of all those test tanks like Thumper and other US projects was because they were fearful about what radical developments could be in the future. T-14 is more or less a mildly watered down version of the exact type of armour that necessitated a switch to larger caliber guns in the first place. There’s a limit to what ammunition can be developed with existing 120mm guns.
At the end of the day, M1E3 will at best be a chip off the old block. An upgraded Abrams is good to fight upgraded T-80 or T-90. But with the same chassis as from 1978, without some serious changes cannot compete with a radial redesign. A new cannon with a longer barrel at least. Not enough room for growth in order to seriously compete with a genuinely novel design which can be built specifically to counter it.
Joy for Italy mains.
If we want a good tank for Britain, there are at least some nice prototypes.
And the fact that they cancelled these projects and haven’t revived them yet means they are likely not worried about it’s performance.
And why? Because they likely have a far better picture of the performance of the SEPv3 than us and they likely have decent estimates of the T-14 Armata. Better estimates than we have.
And again, how do you knows exactly what they are planning to do with the M1E3 and what the limits are?
These are all just more assumptions. Just like you assume the T-14 is as powerful as you believe.
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