Leopards w/ spall liners are way too op

not been good at the start really most of the flight time on ground RB wasting on just turning to get another attack run i knew at the begin with it flying brick but didn’t expect to be that garbage and before them MiG-27K is king in CAS only to get dethrone by Harrier GR7

False btw, its seen as equivalent to Thumper,AbramsX, K-51, EMBT, as when talks begin on any of these T-14 is claimed to come with these. Also Armata is name of the platform, not the tank.

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i read trough it, they complained how bad the T-14 armata would be

Show me it. The only actual discussions I saw was the ones I just mentioned.

doubt it why? because Russian stuff seem not to work as they claim to be in war so i doubt that T-14 are really good and seem Russia afraid to deploy it in the war and Russia military budget compared to US even make it questionable

I think you see why.

There’s no way a later batch 2A4 is going to fight Объект 219РВ at the same BR. One is high tech (thermals and other stuff) and the other is low tech.

We are speaking about a business entity, after all. But since they can’t seemt to make clear and precise statements I understand their avoidance.

Here’s an example.

Two positions.

  1. Don’t use another countries estimates for someone elses equipment.

  2. Gaijin has detailed information on how Igla works, they don’t have the same for Stinger and Mistral, they don’t see any particular reason they should be massively different, so they make extrapolations based on the detailed information they do have about how Igla works, to try and estimate and approximate how Stinger and Mistral work.

Clearly not contradictory when examined up close.

Well it’s either packing a gun that will punch clean through basically any existing E tech or whatever leopard and M1A3, protected by an APS that will intercept any known APFSDS and coated in extremely thick new composites with advanced ERA.

Or it’s basically the same as the US AGS vehicle already ingame.

So who knows.

Sort of like how Su-25/T/39 exist to eat Stingers and VT-1 all day long, I suppose.

Maybe by pessimists who understate it.

It’s pointless to use for what’s going on. Complete overkill. Losses would hurt morale and export prospects, same like why Abrams are stripped of their current composites when shipped over, don’t want secrets getting out and it allows you to say “Oh well that wasn’t my real armour it’s actually way better than that.”

Following your logic F-35 and latest Abrams variants with newest Leopards 2s are shit.

The only country that actually uses best what they have serially is the defending country.

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These are from threads discussinf T-14
Also T14 is long in game /j
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Must be a trophy.

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russia claiming it is a 3rd gen tank Т-14 Армата - #9 от пользователя MOSKWITSCH - Прочая техника - War Thunder — официальный форум

This is another thread

Basicaly that whole thread

yeahhhh, russian screenshots realy dont work that well

Because T-14 is claimed to be 3rd gen tank, thats what creator of thread found?
The only person who says 2A7V is level of T-14 is Hexagon who sometimes is refered to either to as a troll or skill issue, he also states no sources. Hexagon doesnt always know what he talks about to begin with. And is a soviet main, so I dont see this anywhere different from USA main asking for AIM-9X as “counter” to R-73.

Literally the whole thread thinks T-14 is higher level than 2A7 lol.

there is multiple sources released now that show otherwise to the point they made another thread an offical one for further discussing it

those actualy survive stingers cant say the same for other planes and i would argue the Su 39 actualy performs better then tornados if used right

if anything thing thats already hurt and shown how bad it is, i mean we are nearly at year 2 now, russia should since long have overrun if their equipment were decent

shit or not noone know but one thing for sure it better than most of Russian tanks

those are war machine the best where it can prove how it perform is war not in paper.

Missile dev said it himself that R-73 are equivalent to AIM-9X and IRIS-T so why not? (Joke aside what he said even prove he’s bias or on high)

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Never knew this is equivalent to missiles which can go behind the carrier but alright.
And im just joking here, but its obvious that IRIS-T and AIM-9X are just better than R-73.

Also, sincere apologies, video lacks Ryan Gosling with Nightcall in background.

Well, it’s a thing that everyone knew 9X are way ahead of standard R-73 but that coming from missile dev it means something. (he either bias or on high that what i mean)

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4th gen

Москвич (thread creator) could only find sources stating its 3rd, I did see you correct him.

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And i right, because it abilities is better then late 3rd gen

More like gen 3.5 it what T-14 should be call

4th, developer said that true:)… And remaind you about be more easy with ritorics (you love a hot debates, but do it more calmly)

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