Leopards w/ spall liners are way too op

Not when 122B plus and 2A7 exists, shouldn’t be same BR. Making it 11.3 wouldnt change much anyway, it just is not equal to those tanks in the game

T-90M : 22.6 HP/Ton, worse survivability, worse APFSDS
2A7 : 23.4 HP/TON Better survivability (actually insane survivability), Best APFSDS in the entire game

You say they are equal? lol

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lol I’ll take the very slightly slower acceleration for vastly more armor than T-80BVM.

I will repeat something that people often used as counter-argument when it comes to Soviet vehicles.

Skill issue.

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Something we can agree on.

Its very survivable

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Shoot lower plate T-90M dead, 1 shot

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Thats the same with almost any top tier tank
And not always a one shot

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Lmao. Do you even know what lol-penned means? Stupid question, you obviously don’t.

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Well say whatever you want, it is clear with winrates that leopards are shitting on everything extremely hard right now.

When i play USA or USSR at top tier right now 8-9/10 its a defeat

This is the same situation as when 2A6 was introduced and was shitting on T-80U, this will come back to bite the germans and the swedish in the ass.

Gaijin will either nerf the leopards after new year or do some drastic changes at top tier.

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Rather they bring up other tanks

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Funny how the moment the Germans get a tank that doesn’t die in a single hit, and where the Russians actually need to aim for weakpoints, one that actually has spall liners (granted, 2A7V has many artificial ones that need to be fixed, and it is still lacking proper protection, as it should be better than 122s), they whine and cry.

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Other lesser tanks need a buff
French
Italian
British

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All of them need fixes, this isn’t a cock measuring contest.

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It isnt about russians, it is everyone else vs sweden/germany, but you love to make everything about russians i know.

There is so much spam of leopards right now that it is USA USSR vs Germany Sweden most of the time

Dude has his shiny op 2A7 with %75 winrate and is defending it to keep stomping everyone else, nice coping mechanism thinking he can stop the nerf hammer and raw statistics with “but muh germans, rUSSiaN biAs geRMAnY suFfeRs” arguments

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Yet it’s the sole vehicle you brought up as an argument. Get over yourself.

It’s pretty funny as well, German players warned everyone about the 2A7V, and that less capable variants need to show up first; “nah mate, it will be just like fighting the Strv 122!” was the answer. The best part is that 2A7V still isn’t performing as well as it could, since it’s missing a huge portion of its armour capability, and is riddled with a significant amount of artificial weakpoints.

Bringing up my stats in the 2A7V like you’re trying to argue a point I’ve never made, yep, it’s a Malekitth moment. I bet you didn’t make nearly as much of a fuss when it was Russia doing this to everyone else.

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People complained about BVMs that didn’t spall and wanted it nerfed.
So the monkeys paw curled once again and gave it to leopards, especially the STRV122 and 2A7 and made them worse to fight than the BVM.

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Nuh uh . Let people have fun , Time for others to have realistic vehicles

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i have the BVM with 400 matches almost and only got %55 , it never had 75% WR like 2A7, truly a Furina moment, pointless arguments

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Jup, was like talking to a wall like @AlvisWisla it wont be such a huge step. The Leo 2A7V wont be that bad. Yeah just watch what happend.
Only Reason the T-90M didnt ROFL stomp rank 8 in the end was because the Leopards got their spall liners as well.

And the funniest part is 2A7V is still missing massive armor fixes and the PSO needs spall liners and better internal composite as well.

Other nations definitly need their fixes as well, but it just is normal that the german community wants their vehicles as accurate as possible as well. Even if gajin made an mistake of adding them in the first place

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Literaly only flavour of the month effect currently. A lot veteran , great players are coming back to play germany again which results in the stomping as well

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