Leopard 2E - The Spanish cat

Should’ve gotten this instead of jumping the gun to the 2A7, would have also set the groundwork for a Spanish subtree instead the far worse Swiss one that seems to be growing

If it goes in Italy to make a Spanish sub tree then yes

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unlikely, more likely to go to germany, together with the alraedy added spanish eurocopter

It has no ground to go to italy currently

+1 regardless of destination.


It seems like it could be a 50/50 on either Germany or Italy tbh

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VRCC is an italian centauro.
The vehicle was solely added to its developer nation. There is no other reason.
With the same reasoning it goes to germany.
Italy currently has absolutly no claim over spain or the leopard 2e

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I see your reasoning

+1

Gonna be seeing this with an APS soon, testing with the RADAR’s is being conducted using the 2A4 as a test bed:




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Come on, why not while we’re at it! There are still plenty of Leopards missing… One per client country, which means not far to 20 more to add to the game considering future operators! xD

Joking aside, I could see it in a Spanish/Greek subtree in the Italian main tree, alongside a Leo2HEL, which would create a sort of Mediterranean subtree, and would give 4 viable top tiers to Italy considering the KF-51 in a near future ! That would definitely get me started on researching the nation of Italy!

Anyway for me the ground units in high BR should be decompressed from between 11.7 to 13.0 in a not-so-near future, With the arrival of all the latest versions of the most modernized tanks, the Leo2A8, Merkava 4M+, Abrams X, KF-51, K2s, etc., the upgrades should be upgraded to 13.0, and the others, such as the various versions of the Ariete, T80BVM, the latest T90/72, Leclerc, Leo2A7, M1A2SepV3, Type10, Altay, etc., should be distributed from 12.0 for early production versions, to 12.3 for the first upgrades, and 12.7 for major upgrades like the Leclerc XLR, Leo2A7, and others of the same ilk.

Because, quite frankly, there’s already a huge performance gap between all the tanks in 12.0… which is why, in my opinion, 12.3 should already exist! This would avoid ending up with the worst 11.0 tanks against the GOATs of the game.

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wrong corner, italy has hungary and soona likely romanian mig 29 sniper
its going away from your 2 named countries.
germany just recently received the spannish eurocopter as well.
Its more likely spanish vehicles go to their developer

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That’s true! That said, the Spanish have gear from everywhere, it’s not easy to fit a complete sub-tree wherever. Maybe it’s wiser to distribute the most “important” ones as Event/Sqn/Premium at their manufacturer as you say.

canada, australia treatment yeah

Please don’t give this treatment to more nations, Australia, Canada and Poland already suffer from this and we really don’t need to make the list longer.

(Why couldn’t gajin make a V4 tree and give Romania and Spain to Italy)

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What’s it’s thermal imager for gunner/commander?

2nd gen!

It would be the best tank in the game; imagine Leopard 2A7HU, except with the same mass and mobility as Strv 122 (so no downgraded acceleration or top speed).

All I’m gonna say is… if Gaijin dared to add it as an Italian squadron vehicle, it would be enough to draw me to Italy, hahah (along with 2A7HU).

But if it comes to Germany so it stops being a worse Sweden, I wouldn’t complain either.

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I would say the recent Tiger HAD premium showed that spain has no real home either.
And can be added where its fits

Specialy italy and Hungary are going towards KF51 now and i like them specialising into that, instead of watering down with leopards

Nice kitty…

italy is better

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+1 gib!!!

Good that spain has no relation to the italian tree i guess