Leopard 2A8

Yeah always chilling how these countries get pumped up with foreign tech.

Cant really complain that the Worlds most exported MBTs go to multiple nations…

Well how many nations sport Abrams tanks?

In game? Just USA, Australia atm with Taiwan getting one soon I’d imagine. Not sure why you are bringing the Abrams up as it is not nearly as widely exported as leopards.

Since Australia and Taiwan are not in the game I assume you are talking IRL. There are far more than just 3 operating countries. That being said the Leopards have far more operators.

Actually no, Germany will most likely get it first then Italy, and Spain will receive it later.

I meant in game. Those 3 (plus poland i forgot) are the only operators of Abrams in game, I am aware there are more IRL. My point was that the Leopard series are widely exported tanks and it is impossible for these vehicles to be exclusive to Germany when they are used by so many countries (many of which are subtrees in different tech trees).

There are no 2A8 in Spanish and Italian armies.

Makes sense. USSR could also get an abrams now aswell technically.

Italy canceled 2a8 orders

The armor on the prototype was made with Israeli help, the FCS, the APS, some ammo, the transmition was reworked with Israeli help and also the remote-controlled machine guns.

Pfff not even true.

Pls show sources and the tank u are talking about

U got a source to back that up?

I will ask again. Pls provide a source to we can educate ourselves.

The same armor that has been present on the Leopard 2A7V since 2016 and predates Israel - German co-operation by at least half a decade? Okay, cool. Lets see you lie some more.

the FCS

Also Leopard 2A7V/HUN related.

the APS

Literally the only thing on the 2A8 NOR which has an Israeli origin, though the Germans modified it to fit their requirements better (by making it reloadable).

some ammo

HE-MP is an indigenous round, whereas DM11 HE-FS is a fully blooded German HE round developed by Rheinmetall in early 2010s. Israel had nothing to do with either.

the transmition was reworked with Israeli help

Leopard 2A7V, again. Regardless, it’s not the transmission that’s been modified, it’s the final drive that’s been replaced by the new P25.000 HD final drives from ZF Friedrichshafen (a German company) which has a new final drive ratio.

also the remote-controlled machine guns.

RCWS is Kongsberg’s. Nothing to do with Israel.

I’d love to know why you keep lying, honestly, because at this point it’s pathological.

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Bro thinks Israel help German making Leopard lol
When they had nothing to do with
if he thinks that ways then all of NATO tanks that use smoothbore 120mm L/44 or L/55 should be it German TT since its German’s cannon

It wasnt at all the only thing israelí in the 2A8 is the aps and the aps it’s currently being produced for european countries by Germany so yeah stop lying about it

lol no, this is about as true as israel inventing pizza, falafel and shawarma, just stop

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