That too
we will get it in future as BR 13…7 or something, along with Abrams X, T-14 cringemata, KF51 panther etc
croatia joins the club
This isnt quite valid at all. by now, March 2025, much of its specs are now known, currently, Russia is heavily unbalanced via war of attrition, and the slightly better armor + APS + faster reload, is NOT enough. Russia has the Drozd APS, Isreal, the Trophy APS, they werent not added just because noone else had them yet, the armor upgrade is not enough to come close to most other countries, it would still be less than the Abrams series overall, and the faster speed, although slightly faster, is still beat by Japans Type 90, and Fuji variant. There is no good reason not to add it, a leopard 2A7 would have no contest beating the 2A8, and many, many, many countries have the 2A7. I just have to disagree, a BR of 13.0 considering what else might be there would make the 2A8 practically useless.
Specifically, the ONLY German tank that could handle the 13.0+ BR range against the Abrams X, Cringemata etc, is the Panther KF51. the 2A8 is like one of the 10 T80 and T70 variants, its one more vehicle but NOT enough of a leap to keep out.
You mean the tank only Italy will get? Lol
Tbh I don’t know why people look towards the poor-man’s Leo 3 so much lol.
Germany will get a Leo 3 w/130mm (which has already begun its design process) and it’s guaranteed to perform vastly better.
Leo 2A7V is already missing likke 30-40% of its frontal armor so…
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As much as 50% depending on whether it’s KE or CE protection, actually.
Tbh they should just fix it now that it’s easily killable.
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And force soviets to aim? Not happening
Italy and Hungary
So Italy will get 2 of them
Obviously they wouldn’t do that
Italys Leopard 2A8 negotiations fell through and Hungary has not ordered them.
We can only hope that the handful sent to Italy before the deal fell through count
u are aware he answered to your post about KF51s right?
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buddy, there were never any send to italy in the first place, no 2a8 is built yet
I saw after the fact, didn’t care to correct 🤷♂️
I do think KF-51s should be added to Italy though for sure
oh definitly both italian and hungarian versions
But the KF51 130mm demonstrator to germany
Why didn’t Germany get demonstrator Kf-41? Wouldn’t make sense if Germany got the KF-51 if they used Kf-41 logic.
IIRC Gaijin did say Germany will get a KF-41 at some point, but it’s not like Gaijins word means much