Thats not the Point, I also dont asked him to upload the PDF here, but he needs it on thr CBR, otherwise it wont get accepted in the 1st place
This makes no sense.
The Norwegian Leopard 2A8NO brochure from 2026 also gives a similar restricted gun depression and elevation, despite not having the camera on the upper front plate.
Additionally, the negative and positive gun vertical angles are restricted. If the camera was causing the limitations, then we would not see the positive elevation being limited alongside the negative elevation.
Translation: I used AI to generate a fake email
2 Likes
Would be funny if a German main now bug reported the Optimering’s gun depression due to clipping issues.
4 Likes
Sorry but do you have a brochure that shows that the Optimerings barrel cant quantum tunnel through the hull? /s
3 Likes
Are we serious right now? How can this guy again say that tanks with the same gun may have different limits but then on the bottom throws together all 2A7s into one pot despite the 2A7V not having any source for the lower limit?
Can we please for the love of god get some consistent standards into the bug reporting process?
11 Likes
Just out of curiosity, since info on the knds site is 100% super duper mega true
Does this stuff then check out ?
at the top of the page it literally goes:
and that’s easy to check just go onto the knds site and go to 2a7, cause if so, the weight of 2a7v in our game is simply wrong, being 69-ish tons
and the same with speed being shown around 70, so like ?
2 Likes
This brochure i’ve sent from hungarian ministry of defence, then also gets more credibility with its 72kmph, so like 70-72 kmph for 2a7s we’ve got in our game
Although here is a fun fact, i’ve checked the 2a6 alongside the 2a7, and guess freaking what, they’re copypasted stats, there, god, just, literally WHY can noone here question the quality of the sources ???
Why does no one rule in the possibility of wrong information on the knds site ?
It was literally debunked that the 2a8 brochure is a carbon copy of the old 2a7NO one, hell if not older, since on said brochure a ton of 2a7+ info is mentioned, if the bugreport dude, literally goes on about different configurations on different tanks, logically:
2a7v can have 1 config, 2a7hu another, 2a8 german a third config, and 2a8no as literally debunked via a video has 7.67 degrees, i am sorry but luming them all in together is nothing short of idiotic
How can you possible nerf all 4 vehicles, using exactly the same 1 source ? Why do you think a brochure on 2a8 from knds is sacred ?
Like, do yall genuinely not see the issue ?
p.s. there is currently a suggestion on 2a7hu urbops, in its sources there is this
and it ALSO lists 72kmph, so well, i wonder why on earth is the 2a7 61 kmph really
4 Likes
So that players would be more angry at the player who created the report, rather than at the developer who accepted it.
If the developer had simply nerfed the gun’s elevation angle, the players wouldn’t have understood it and would have been very angry about the “artificial nerf.”
They’d better not accept this brochure, because it will significantly increase the vehicle’s weight.
Nobody is stopping you
<69 tons means the weight is less than 69 tons. It depends on the tank’s configuration.
can you explain this?
What is this symbol?
I hope action is taken against this guy for falsifying sources, people like him are completely ruining the games bug report system
1 Like
Take a look at this, guys. We’ve provided a mountain of evidence data, and even video and visual proof. Gaijin has already implemented the -7.4-degree figure in the game, yet they refuse to accept the -9-degree value. It’s as if the -7.4 figure, appearing in an official KNDS brochure, is some kind of gospel. Gaijin is taking this absurd stance “we’ll only accept it if we see ‘-9’ explicitly written there” it’s an absolute joke!
The most ridiculous part is that they readily accepted a -7.67-degree figure found on a plaque in a YouTube video, simply because it’s close to the -7.4 value they’re defending. Meanwhile, they’re completely ignoring a video on the official Bundeswehr (German Armed Forces) website that clearly specifies an elevation range of -9 to +20 degrees for the 2A7V.
It seems these decisions were made long before the update was even announced; they have pre-prepared responses for every counter-argument. I’ve made my stance clear by uninstalling the game; for now, I’m just keeping an eye on the forums until the update hits the live servers. If this -7.4 figure or that nonsense about the -7.67-degree plaque actually makes it into the game, I’m done wasting my time trying to set things right here.
9 Likes
Funnily enough even the Info from the Project Manager for Leopard 2 Procurements of the Bundeswehr Frank Lobitz was denied (Even he says in his Book about the Leopard 2 And States that Both the Leopard 2A4 AND the Leopard 2A7V has its -9° & +20°)
(Just for who is wondering This is Frank Lobitz, an Lieutenant Colonel and the Project Manager of Leopard 2 Related Procurement)
18 Likes
What arguments did they present when they refused?
3 Likes
Did they specify what the difference is between the L55 and the L55A1?
1 Like