Germany’s new T90 Leopards xD
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what? the exact composition of the armor maybe yes but you can literally find pictures of everything online. Inside and outside.
Some people even MEASURED the individual composite blocks on the gun mantlet for a bug report.
To start, you are agreeing with me that the 2A8 can depress more than -7.4 IRL, and I appreciate us in shared agreement.
That’s a bad reference, the better reference is in the previous images:
Those images alone prove that the 2A8 can depress more than -7.4, as the -7.4 screenshot doesn’t show enough of that gap, the straight edge just barely starts to show in the photo:
Getting an angle for the gun over the front hull itself is far more difficult than using the side of the added on steel. So difficult that you yourself couldn’t quite get it.
I can see what you mean but that’s also a bad reference. Unlike irl the turret wedges are for some reason asymmetric on the 2A8, one being too small and the other one being too big
Also the turret geometry on the 2A7 and 2A8 is noticeably different from the other Leos because the old turret model has some pretty bad geometry.
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Where did you see this? Ingame they are -7.4
That bug report is why I used the gap further back.
Seeing the “straight down” portion of the steel in the gap helped me get a good reference as well.
@Kobes-Kamov
I said they are -7.4 in-game on dev server.
-7.67 2A8 was confirmed to be going in a future version of the game in Smin’s post.
I think this was only for the NO version though right?
Edit:
Also, do you have a link to that post?
Copy-pasted turret of 2A8, so it should be both.
The annoying part is 2A7HU’s turret’s likely the same structure, but might not get the updated -7.67.
& 2A7V is most similar to 2A6’s structure, but isn’t retaining -9.
That’s what’s been annoying me for the passed few days.
& I don’t have a link at this time.
Looking at Smins post history I dont see any mention of a change to -7.67 degrees of depression.
I could be missing something though. I am aware a report was accepted that would improve the depression to this level, but I haven’t seen any confirmation that Gaijin will be using this figure over the -7.4 one.
So they dropped the Leopard “rework” they announced in 2023 and (at least that’s how I read it) the Puma ones as well for now? (spall liner, hull armor?)
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which one?
I created an account on the forum simply to refute this claim. Specifically, I’m curious about any changes in the 2A8 that we can’t observe which have worsened depression.
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On the side if somebody goes little bit behind 90 degrees behind u on ur side u can’t aim down and u die because of it, the Armor frontally can’t tank anything on top tier, Gaijin and their biased choices,
(yes biased not even a joke anymore T90M’s auto loader a lot of the times acts as additional armor and i don’t know if it’s only me but i cannot find ANY picture of a T-90M Arena-M with those ERA packs on side or behind, back to the point).
They made Leopards 2a8 into a Sniper tank, and even then Gaijin made Leopard cheek armor fall off after few hits and then the Leopards are just a glass cannons even at the only thing gaijin made the tank good at.
To add the insult to the injurie DM53 at this point is so bad that a lot of the time its spall doesn’t do anything or nonpenns stuff.
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Lets give up guys, they will continue on -7 doenst matter what proov we show them. They dont want to see their comunity happy, only wants the bias to continue
There might be a huge misunderstanding, or perhaps I’m failing to comprehend the text, but all I did was conclude that speculations are meaningless regarding the statement: ‘What I have is only guesswork based on screenshots of tanks that were X-rayed in-game.’
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I apologize for any misunderstanding. To clarify, I am also on your side in opposing the recent nerf to the Leopard 2’s elevation and depression angles, and I am certainly furious with Gaijin about it.
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no because inside the breach no have enought space s to close to roof:P + the guys says gaiji nerf leoaprd depresion because this structural steel but in game no have this u reported many russian tanks the gun enter in hull or structural steel years ago but nothing… this not problem
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0Ai2EO0lBjda
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ragebait doesn’t help either
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You can Look at Modell Conversation Kits in 1:35 scale who you can see this thing with Spectus and some Stuff ,Pictures and so on and i bit technical understanding.Would help.