We as the player can elevate Abrams up to 24 degrees per second.
The game itself [stabilizer] will elevate the Abrams gun up to 40 degrees per second as we go over hills at speed.
And that’s what will seem to happen to Leopard 2 now.
No more head patting at 40 degrees per second in my Leopard 2s.
Stab will still be 40 degrees per second, but our manual input will be 10 degrees per second it seems.
Currently the speed avalaible for our use for the Leopard is still 40 degrees for the elevation it seems, if this changes goes though, what i can understand is the fact we will have 10 degrees max avalaible for us.
If we understand each other correctly, yes the direct input from our mice will be 10 degrees max available to us for elevation.
It is a curious day.
That’s incorrect according to the source for the speed provided above.
The aiming / tracking speed is 0.017°/s to 10°/s for the leopard 2
For the Abrams that would be 0.25mils/s to 75mils/s or about 0.014°/s to 4.5°/s
The minium speed is actually also very important as it defines how „pixel perfect“ you can get the radicle on target. On the Leo 2 this became a tiny bit worse with the electrical drive (compared to hydraulic), and made a noticeable difference to gunners.
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That’s why I am asking @_David_Bowie how he thinks these thing will be implemented. Even the most basic values (e.g. gun accuracy) are not implemented yet.
Yet you are talking already about aim mode, turret drive acceleration, drive torque, controller inputs etc.
For 99% of the vehicles ingame, we will never have that data.
Yea stabilizers have unlimited traverse rate in game
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So one more acknowledged, one more passed as a suggestion, and another one rejected…
Pretty much
The electric turret drives are far more accurate than a human could ever hope to be, there is no noticeable difference except perhaps when the electro-hydraulic system isn’t properly maintained and is outside it’s correct operation pressure range.
Where is that from mate?
Old leo 2 manual… (no it’s not classified)
On a sidenote, anyone else find it hilarious that Leo 2 gets it’s gun depression limited because of the FCS limits (-9 over front and +3 over rear), but the Soviet tanks not only have their unstabilised depression angles (1 degree too much) but also get an artificial 1 degree extra because the devs decided to put the “default” position relative to the hull which is angled at 89° instead of 90…
So they essentially get 2° more gun depression than they should.
U have a link / the full document?
I second this ^^
No and I’m not sure there’s much point tbh.
I have tried reasoning with Gaijin in the past using primary sources and they have been rejected because it didn’t fit their idea of “balance”.
I just wanted to shove it under someone’s nose :)
A Leo gunner I talked to used both the hydraulic and electrical system said that the hydraulic system is a little bit more responsive/precise in movement and that the electrical takes getting used to. I would be surprised if they are perfectly identical (not just on paper).
Isn’t there even a procedure to use the hand pumps to „fine adjust“ if the powered system is unable to do it precisely enough?
He might think so, but the fact of the matter is that the electric turret drives are just as responsive and precise as the electro-hydraulic ones.
They should even have less backlash (hydraulic fluid is slightly compressible).
It’s just the acceleration profile that differs and it is incredibly minute, but the electro-hydraulic system will change over time and use.
There’s two limits that will be reached before that of the turret drives themselves:
The manual handcrank is less precise…
If we can find the source of that document we are gonna do the arguing for you
Have they decided to fix the 2a7V yet?
No, they decided to make it worse.
