What is your point?
Sure, but this is closely related to the maps. With larger and better-made maps, you can have more dynamic matches, where those crucial factors aren’t the key to the game.
They will ALWAYS be highly valued, highly important statistics. They correlate directly with reactivity.
I know those factors are still important, but larger maps introduce an element of chance. The chance that you’re hiding in one area with your M1, looking in one direction, can be fired upon from another by a T-72 that was standing in distant cover.
As the maps are now, it’s either quickly reaching the same four or five points and waiting for them to pass by, or going through the streets in CQC and hoping someone’s around the next corner.
Personally, I like using very different tanks with different capabilities, since using the same tank too much gets tiring, and I think that’s one of the good things about the game. Otherwise, this game would end up being 16 Leopard 2A7Vs versus 16 Leopard 2A7Vs.
Untrue unless you’re in CQC. At 500~ range much of the upper front plate has a good chance to resist DM23. Same for the turret.
The “better reload” is 7.8 stock crew vs 7 for the TURMS. Fully trained + Expert puts it at 6.4. Once again proving that you guys will always pretend the other tank is in the best possible situation while defending your own stuff.
@Necrons31467 “If I put it at point blank range they both can lolpen each other!”.
Also, I applaud you guys for focusing exclusively on one of the worst tanks to compare to a tank a whole BR higher. Not the other tanks such as the T80UD from which you moved on as quickly as you could.
Pretty much. It’s why when I stopped trying to use the T-90M like a slower T-80BVM, I started enjoying it.
Could be worse (M1 KVT)
There is no balance in this game. 2a4 was a good tank, but for so many years, a lot of different equipment has come out. And they don’t specifically update the indicators. Now 2a4’s enemies are armored by him and have a more powerful projectile. What balance to see, guys. Have you seen WinRate BMPT? 😂
My guy, I have very little “my own stuff”. Unlike you I don’t just tie myself to a single tree.
You can be a one trick pony, but don’t project that onto me.
why would you have a stock crew for a 10.7 rank 7 tank?
doesn’t exactly make your argument look good when you show the worst possible situation
I’m curious to try those two tanks and see how they perform in a match, but I’ve been too lazy to play the game lately. Between dealing with the constant penetration and damage errors I encounter, and trying to rank up all the nations at once by playing a fixed number of matches with all the tanks, reaching the top tier seems quite far off.
That’s the way to do it. No rush to get to top-tier.
T-72AV’s UFP offers around 370-380mm of armour against KE projectiles:

DM23 will penetrate 385mm of armour at 1500 metres.
If you believe 1500 metres to be ‘point blank range’ in War Thunder, you must be confusing it with some other game.
I addressed the tank that you brought up, you specifically mentioned the T-72AV.
I also addressed the T-80UD, in fact, that’s the very first thing I did in my reply.
Ironic, considering Renzo and I both play multiple nations, that stands in pretty stark contrast to what you play:

My most played tank is the Japanese chaffee, followed by the Nato, nice try tho!
you mean germany?
real smug lmao
Nato lol.
You have exactly 0 vehicles at rank 5 or above in any tree besides Germany.
no the 3.3 TD in japan i do believe Na-To
btw if you want pen any russian tank with the T-72/T-90/T-80 with a leo2a4 or his same variants in others nations just try to hit in the lower plate (tummy) or in the conductor in this cases shoot a little lower of the turret, and yhea the kd dont seems nothing here if you are a leo2a4 or a 2k etc you can be always bad kd like me but is for the bmpt or the overpowered 2s38s
carefull, they gonna blame you for telling them how to shoot a T-series tank, even more, some one gonna go call you bais and start posting you in other forums.
i dont care if they post me i am just a player of this beatiuful game, i see so many of them try to post a realistics images of how they work or in the game thats after all you need to have the skill of know how is the real weakest point i kill so many of t series tanks only hitting in the wheels (in frontals) and you know why? because i know how to shoot them and get a one shoot kill all t series have the one shoot and in my case i love to hit the ammo rack always and is more easy shooitng in the tummy
