it was announced during the br change 2 days ago Update 2.59.0.92
And until the patch actualy gets realesed like 2 weeks will continue. So you are already in that grace period. You not actualy keeping up to date is a you issue
Thanks for the information! 👍
Okay, I see now that the official BR changes mentioned the Leopard 2 PSO relocation.
But what about a guaranteed grace period AFTER the update?
Gaijin has already implemented this for other vehicles!
For example, in the Danger Zone update, players received 14 days after release to continue researching vehicles through their previous research paths.
In Dance of Dragons, this period was actually increased from 14 to 28 days!
Official sources:
I understand these examples involve newly added vehicles rather than relocated ones. However, the problem for affected players is very similar.
Why not provide the same kind of grace period for the Leopard 2 PSO?
Simply announcing the relocation before the update is not the same as letting players finish their research after the update.
I’m asking for a clear answer: will players get additional time to research and purchase the PSO through its original branch after Eagle’s Shadow is released?
I’d really appreciate an official answer from Gaijin.
again, you have the grace period, from the 29th to likely in 2 weeks when the update drops.
You wont get an answer by gajin,
Well, new vehicles are announced before updates too. Players already know what’s coming and have time to prepare.
Yet Gaijin still gives them a 28-day grace period AFTER the update.
So why should the Leopard 2 PSO be treated differently?
I see it as the same situation. That’s my point. 😏
Cause you are still wrong.
Those examples you have given is for new vehicles. PSO is no new vehicle.
its just getting moved.
There is plently of times where vehicles have been moved.
There is no system in place for what you want.
The system to skip a vehicle in a tree if it newly added exists. this is not the case for moved vehicles.
You have been warned that its getting moved in roughly 14days, get to it and research it now or miss it.
But you wont get more
I know the current system applies to newly added vehicles, not relocated ones. That’s exactly why I’m suggesting Gaijin extend the same grace period to relocations like the PSO.
I’m asking for a change, not claiming the rule already exists. 😏
its a stupid one honestly,
You got time, you got warned use it
I haven’t insulted you. I’ve simply expressed my opinion.
You’re free to disagree, but there’s no need to be disrespectful.
If you continue responding with insults, I’ll report your comments to the moderators.
i havent insulted you, i said the idea is stupid.
OHHHH no what shall i do, honestly, if you think people take that threat seriously you got other problems
Nevertheless, the question remains open.
I believe the same grace period rules could easily apply to vehicles being moved from one research line to another.
That’s my point.
and its a stupid idea, the grace period pretty much already exists, it has been announced, you can use the time already to research it
For new vehicles it is different cause the placement of them might always change until after the actual release of the update. thats why there is a grace period given AFTER the release
Two top-tier tanks in two days. This wasn’t fun. I’m exhausted.
I rushed the PSO because its upcoming move would leave me grinding another branch to reach it. A tech-tree reshuffle turned my free time into a deadline.
Gaijin, how is this supposed to improve the player experience?
And what do we get instead? Another top-tier Leopard 2A8 nerfed before release — lacking a roof-mounted 12.7 mm (.50 cal) machine gun (described in KNDS’s own brochure) and the new shell DM73, while still stuck with DM53.
What’s the point of adding a new top-tier tank in that state?
How much longer are you going to treat the German ground tree like this?
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nobody told you to do it in 2 days. You had over a week since the change was announcedt, and the update will likely only come middle /end of next week if even.
This is a complete you issue, once again, dont play the victim cause you forced yourself to do it in 2 days
cause germany doesnt use it, its the service model/ supposed to be , nothing more
10mm more penetration its not that big of a deal
the APS system?
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No official release date was announced. November 7 was the dev server deadline, not the update release date. Those two days were my only free window. You don’t know my schedule, so stop making assumptions.
Try reading the manufacturer’s documentation before making claims. KNDS explicitly lists an optional .50 cal remote weapon station for the Leopard 2A8. Page 6.
10 mm can literally be the difference between penetration and a bounce in War Thunder. And DM73 is already in Bundeswehr service for the L55A1. Read Rheinmetall’s documentation.
Trophy doesn’t excuse everything else. No DM73, no laser warning system, reduced gun depression — and now even the 2A7V gets nerfed. Meanwhile, Soviet vehicles get buffs. This is exactly why players keep talking about Russian bias.
And that’s supposed to be a new top-tier? My PSO has a useful roof-mounted .50 cal that actually makes a difference in combat. The 2A8 doesn’t. No DM73, no laser warning system, nerfed gun depression. And Trophy? Will it work as “reliably” as Spikes? 😂
Do the developers even value their own time management? Why introduce a so-called upgrade that’s worse in key areas than what we already have? What’s the point of grinding it?
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the change that the PSO get changed to another line was in fact announced. You have 2 weeks, if you dont find time in those, sucks to be you
irrelevant, the german service version got added, and germany did in fact not order the leopard with an rcws…
and? its not enough in gajins mind. and you pointed out rheinmetalls documentation, read the bundeswehr documentation on the german 2a8 service variant,
still not installed in german variants, its in fact correct. inform yourself.
that ones wrong yes.
cause the PSO had a 50 cal installed, its a tech demonstrator
its an inservice version not a tech demonstrator.
i take it you were not aware of the spike buffs coming this patch and you being able to actualy aim at enemy modules as you want
Germany should have the LWS system, it’s just not ready yet. It should have MUSS 2.0 or ODAEON. Germany’s first Leopard 2A8s will arrive in early 2027, then we’ll see what they’ve delivered. The Germans should also have the same side screens as the PSO. This information is literally from the article about the Leopard 2A8 on the Bundesvehr page.
Yes.
Muss 2.0 /Odaeon are the same system just different parts of it.
Its just the lws parts of it, it is getting.
The LDRCIM dazzler is currently not confirmed.
Issue is just gajin cant model an lws system that has not yet been installed/shown.
As a result we dont have it yet, we might get it in the future, just like the abrams did recently.
That ones not the case, the heavy side skirts are not the ones from.the PSO. It just says physical armor getting increased not in which way.
On the contrary, Norway has abandoned massive blocks on the sides, and those that are on the 2A8no are not them, only the BLRT screens like the PSO or 2A7+ remain
No, the eurosatory is not a showcase of german plans on a 2a8
The official german tender is for the installation of the LDRCIM system on a 2a7V for testing with development for the future leo 3. They were just to lazy to put a 2a7V with the mock up next to it, they just placed it on their newest toy the 2a8 since it looks better,
But no official source, include the eurosatory broschures name any inentions or plans for this on a 2a8
I had this discussion more then once trust me, this are all sources supporting my statements
https://www.hartpunkt.de/bundeswehr-beauftrag-entwicklung-von-130mm-munition-sowie-neuem-schutzsystem-und-triebwerk-fuer-leopard-2-kampfpanzer/
https://ted.europa.eu/de/notice/-/detail/79981-2025
you are invitied to provide your sources, but germany does not plan nera side add ons like the PSO or the 2a7HU.
2a8NO has additional track storage on the sides and germany instead has so called heavy side skirts
Those schwere kettenblenden being those already installed on the rollout model.
NERA add on is not this
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