Legend of Victory: T-34-85 “Partisan”

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a russian lover…

joking aside, what do u think should the BR of a stabilised T34-85 with or without BR 367 be?

5.7 no chance
6.0 no chance
6.3 is the t44-85 with the br 367 and a hull thats comparable to the t34, T20 is there with a limited stabi and a worse gun and ammo but more nimble and better depression and a .50
6.7 could work without the BR 367, sitting side by side with the IS-2, T44 is 6.7 with the t44 chassi but the 85 with BR 367.
7.0 could work even better if it gets the BR 367.

U could say… the T44 has better Chassi then the t34, but if it gets the same ammo, the t34-85 Taran could definitly be on paar with the t44 or higher.

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im a brit main but have played a good amount of Germany and have done a lot of USSR recently.

Ive got a list of things I’ve played and been on the receiving end of that need an increase.

u cant really count germany, thank to the players that play them… ehm… and thats coming from a german… and rus 6.7 is barely played i would say. to big of a gab there. In general there arend many good 6.7 lineups left in comparasion to the past…

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6.3 would fit it perfectly

Ive played a lot of the T34-85 recently for the BP challenges and its incredibly powerful, great armour for a medium and that gun is incredible at kicking panthers and tigers to death to the point that uptiers are as easy as downtiers. giving it stabilisation would make it still very effective at 6.3. Yes there’s heavy compression above that but this isn’t an excuse to compress below

I love the Tiger 2, it plays incredibly well but my lord the teammates are about are as good at the game as if I gave one of my cats (who doesn’t have working front legs) a controller to play.

I’m almost at 6.7 USSR, after how often the IS2 has eaten 7.7 shells from me I’m looking forward to the bloodbath

5.7, Sherman’s all have stabalizes and are equal if not very minutely better.

It’s not going to get Br-367

Yea, i love the IS-2… great gun, good mobility, good reverse, weirdly strong armor, also against bombs its superb… good in almost everythink and also the 6.7 has a .50.

Just get your crew level and buy the SL expert, otherwise u reload for ages.

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This is such outer stellar take…

It gets a low speed stab. That’s it… y’all act like it’s made of 1000mm armor, and fires nuclear bombs.

Like am I crazy here? @quartas121 am I missing something?

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Lol shermans cant reverse, they are generally much slower and the gun is worse then the 85mm.

Hows that comparison going to work? the standart T-34-85 is already 5.7 and the T44-85 is already 6.3.

U cant put the tank that is superiour to the T44-85 on a lower level. Hows that supposed to be fair?

By that argument, why is the T20 not 5.3 anymore? It has less armor then the Shermans…

You did not just say the gun is worse…

76mm has 147 pen with 75.66 g he

85mm has 148 with 77 g he

They are practically the same.

Reverse for the Sherman’s 3.8 mph.
For the T-34-85 5.2 mph.

The br of the Sherman’s is already lower than the 85’s

Also it has worse armor than the T-44-85… which is also over br’d, it should be 6.0

Speaking of which, the T-34-85s are all going to rank III which means their rewards are already getting nerfed…

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oh dear…

first of all u should shoot the capped ammo in the 85mm, if u shot the 148mm pen one ure using the wrong one. The capped ammo of the 85mm is by far superior to the 76 M62. Just look at the pen values on distance and angle and ofc the TNT inside it. U hit a random cupola… enemy dead xD

I dont need to tell you that 5.2mph is around 37% faster do i? Its the difference of being able to get behind cover/ridgeline in 6 seconds (before enemy reloads) or if you need 37% longer (8.16 seconds)

The reverse speed is the only reason the T20 IS at 6.3.
Reverse speed is importand!

Oh and btw, t44-85 is totally fine at 6.3. It has the much better BR 367 and enough hullarmor to not get random shot asskicked by the 76 or 85mm or a pzIV. Definitly harder to crack then the t34s but not by much. Only the real t44 hull is a monster.

oh and shermans are also 5.7… so where are they lower br? The slowreload t34-85 starts 5.3 and the lower shermans have a differend engine and/or hull then the 5.7. U ever played the 5.0 sherman? That thing is superslow.

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I mean stab is solid, what speed is it good up to btw?

I see why you keep comparing it to your prized T20 lol. You know, your most played tank?

The T20: slightly better armor.
Faster reload by 1.5 secs
Smaller overall size.
Better reverse.
Roof mounted .50 cal.
-10 gun depression
Stabalized in 1 plane

Hence 6.3

T-34-85 (any model):
Sloped armor 7.4 max reload speed.
Similar acceleration to the T20 1 less mph top end though.
-5 gun depression.

Sherman’s (I’ve spaded all of them btw ;) ):
5.3: slightly slower
Armor: compared to the T-34s, worse angle, but higher amount.
Also a 5.9 sec load time.
Better overall turret armor than the T-34s, being thicker, but also slightly bigger.
Again, roof mounted .50 cal.
-10 gun depression
Stabilized in 1 plane

5.7 pretty much just a faster 5.3 Sherman.

Sorry folks, still looks like T-34 is still worse
Also, I tried Br-365 like you suggested, I thought it was pointless, and boy was I right. Non-penned a Tiger twice! Wow! What a great shell…

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On the T-34-85? 25 kph apparently

Hmm that’s not bad. What BR is the regular one?

5.7 but it’s going from rank 4 → rank 3 this new one is also going to be rank 3

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Then 6.0 would make sense assuming all else remains the same

I still think an introductory 5.7 would make the most sense. If it proves too good. Then 6.0, but even at 5.7, there’s a lot of 6.3 / 6.7s it will struggle immensely against.

(Ignore the game I just went 13 and 0 with a nuke in, in my T-34-85E, with an ace crew).

I think even the Bp’s T-44-85 may be a bit over tiered. Having equally bad armor as a T-34-85, but the true benefit being the BR-367 shell. You still won’t kill a Tiger II frontally or many 6.7s, but it will give you a better chance against 6.3s and some 6.7s

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I think 6.0 is pretty safe, I mean if you hold like 24 kph then you are fairly mobile and can fire much more effectively on the move. Having a stabilizer is generally pretty nice and I’d say it warrants a .3 increase from the start

So does that mean the Sherman’s should go up to 6.0? Especially the Jumbo, given the fact it’s vastly more effective?