Apparently they werent clear, because why did you need to say its the case then.
Practise what you preach buddy
Either way, i whole heartetly support the addition of the leclerc addition to the french tech tree where it supposed to be and will be a great addition to their line up
Looks like a sci-fi tank. It’s sick! +1 for France 🤙
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What is the RHA equivalent of polyester fiberglass?
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no please, anything but the OFL F1, the Leclerc s2 never saw one ever and so did the SXXI but if that thing comes back i’ll become crazy
the OFL 120 F1 is still the standard APFSDS round use in France
the OFL 120 F2 been a DU round is not used anymore but France still have a stock of them stored
the OFL 120 G1 is not used for a rather long time. i guess you mean this one
the Shard Mk.1 is currently getting into service for France which is a neat improvement of over the OFL 120 F1
the Shard Mk.2 is currently in development.
the idea was to skip the OFL 120 G1 as this round is no longer in the French stock for ages. start with the OFL 120 F1 and improve with the Shard.
also, the Ascalon is a different gun likely to have a higher velocity than the CN-120-26 F1. there is just no info about the actual velocity. it’s an L/58 gun which is nato compatible. the velocity should be a bit higher than the RH-120 L/55 used by Germany. i gave it the CN-120-26 F1 velocity as a place-holder. the performance can’t be lower and the F1 is still a decent gun. so once we find the real velocity, the gun will be buffed instant of nerfed.
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I’m not even sure that’s the case to be honest. The French Parliament voted a motion that prohibits the use of depleted-uranium ammunition so I would be surprised any are kept in storage.
Ammunition isn’t even the most problematic issue when it comes to the Leclerc anyway in my opinion. If armor and speed were fixed, OFL 120 F1 would be enough
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they have been stored at Brienne le Chateau since 2001. they are still there for all we know. they just do not use it. but if there is a situation where things go wrong, they will bring them back to services.
disposing of them is costly. keeping them cost very little. especially since the storage is already there and perfectly adapted for this purpose.
also, each round has an individual case to keep them. here are some pictures showing the storage and the OFL 105 F2 (which is the DU round for the 105mm)
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TIL. Thanks!
As I said above, France doesn’t use depleted-uranium in its ammunition anymore for environmental considerations, but also because the Minister of Defence declared in 2001 that “Les chars Leclerc sont approvisionnés exclusivement en obus flèche au tungstène OFL 120 F1 de 120 mm” (Réponse du ministère aux questions écrites de plusieurs sénateurs (Michel Doublet, Marie-Claude Beaudeau, Thierry Foucaud), Journal officiel, Sénat, Questions, 22 mars 2001, p. 1006.).
Together, these 2 claims made me think OFL 120 F2 rounds had been disposed.
So looks like OFL 120 F2 is the last depleted-uranium weapon France manufactured … which doesn’t mean France is not holding onto these rounds in case they’re needed.
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yeah, it only meant they aren’t using it anymore. it do not mean they do not have it anymore
i meant G1, i probably didn’t bother to read what i typed before entering
i agree that the F1 is a fine round but what bothers me is that the value are completely wrong in-game, like the Mass and penetration
IMHO, Leclerc XLR can be more revelent, because it’s in service and it’s not just an prototype.
But it will not add many stuff compare to Leclerc Azur. It’s a little bit like “Leclerc” and “Leclerc S2”.
A bout thir Leclerc Evo, I realy don’t know if this thing have armor on the turret.
But considering, at BR 11.7 many tanks have laser detector and APS, this Leclerc EVO can be good for for gameplay.