The L39 is comically slow for a jet, it will play more like a prop with CCIP. Not saying it doesnt need to move up just saying it sounds OP on paper but probably isnt that bad
I would like to say we need some time to observe its performance instead of increasing the BR directly, just like MB326K.
NAH KEEP IT, I WANT IT. yes this is a complete sentence
not wort the risk, by not being a non russian and not main naticion veicles if is introduced op it will stay at the same br for min 4 moths
Eh, at least 7.0 - 7.3
Nope, the next BR exchange will be at Aug, and also if it is really OP, then Gaijin will move it as quickly as possible(such as Flankpanzer or Harrier, just in 2 weeks)
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as said previusly and suspected this plane as a cas is op beiond belive and neaded to be heavaly nerfed
As I said, L39 is overvalued, almost 100% shot down by any fighters, even BF109 or FW190s, the FM is horrible
Literally just trying to fight the thing and it’s gonna die.
At 7.3 every fighter and any bomber with a gun can remove the thing from the sky.
It’s only overpowered is when it’s COMPLETELY uncontested. Not just by aircraft but also from spaa of any kind, because remember, it’s a jet that has the speed of a mid war prop plane, something most ~4.0 spaa can already deal with, let alone higher br spaa.
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Shure and you say a vulcan can face this thing are you joking
I mean last 7 time iv seen one yesterday thay all have a kd from 4 to 10 against tank, and i play 8.3 lateley that dosent sound very balanced
Yes, yes it can
You gotta remember, spaa has two jobs, the first is to prevent cas from attacking your allies, and the second is killing cas.
The 37 is so bad in flight performance that just spooking them is enough to prevent them from attacking for a few minutes while they regen energy, and this doesn’t include the fact ANY plane above 6.0 can curb stomp the thing.
It is pretty sad that yesterday a F8F(4.7 one) was taking 3 bombs and came to hunt me, I can’t do anything, even drop all of my loadouts, I can’t even gather enough speed to escape, and dogfight, the CCIP and Zuni make it worth this BR but not itself, I 100% sure it is worse than HE162
Most of its kills should be like some no-armor vehicles and SPAAs, I have killed a guy 6 times because he wasted all of its SP to respawn open top SPAAs and SPGs, that makes sense to get pretty high K/D
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Weak argument. Gepards are too strong for a plane with only CCIP.
Apart from the fact that arguing with you is honestly a waste of time, considering the amount of bias and ragebait whenever CAS is mentione by you
The Gepard is 8.3, while this aircraft is 7.3, so you only face it in a full uptier
The 7.3 SPAA, like the M163 Vulcan or the ZSU-23-4(no radar), are incapable of reliably defending against it, while even better SPAA can barely deal with it a cas aircraft should be balanced around how effective it is against tanks, not against other aircraft in Ground RB. Just look at the A-10, Su-25, A-4E, etc. Therefore, it shouldn’t be a cancer for tanks while also being balanced against anti-air that’s why it belongs around 8.0.
Now bring me a better argument instead of your usual bullshit like:
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The CAS problem is just a skill issue
Calling every complaint about CAS a “skill issue” is an easy way to shut down the discussion without actually addressing the problem. If so many players, including experienced ones, keep raising the same concerns, maybe there’s more to it than just people playing badly -
Players die to CAS because they position badly
Positioning definitely matters, but it’s not always that simple a lot of maps force you into open areas if you want to play the objective, and you can’t spend the whole match hiding behind a rock just because an aircraft might show up -
People don’t know how to use SPAA.
Sure, some players aren’t good with SPAA, but balance shouldn’t depend on everyone playing every vehicle perfectly. In random battles you’re always going to have players with different skill levels, and the game has to work for all of them -
Modern SPAA are only strong if the player is skilled
Modern SPAA definitely take some practice, but they’re also packed with features like radar tracking, thermals and proximity-fused missiles that make engaging aircraft much easier than it used to be. It’s not just about player skill—the technology does a lot of the work -
CAP should be the primary counter to CAS
That sounds good on paper, but Ground RB is still a tank mode first. Not everyone wants to stop playing tanks just to spawn a fighter because someone else brought CAS You shouldn’t have to switch roles every match just to deal with aircraft -
CAS is already difficult because SPAA dominate the airspace
Even if the aircraft gets shot down eventually, it can still wipe out several tanks before that happens saying CAS is balanced because it dies afterwards ignores the damage it already did -
Aircraft require much more skill than SPAA
Flying well absolutely takes skill, but that doesn’t automatically mean the rewards are balanced a mechanic can be difficult to use and still be too effective when someone knows what they’re doing -
If you die to CAS, you should have spawned SPAA.
That’s not always a realistic solution maybe you don’t have enough spawn points, maybe your lineup doesn’t include a good SPAA, or maybe you just want to keep playing tankst elling everyone to spawn SPAA every time aircraft appear isn’t really fixing the underlying issue
and sustain why this thing should be 7.3 i hope to be cleat enought even if i don’t nativly speak eanglish.
No way you actually expect to be taken seriously.
typo 23/4 no radar not the vulcan but you know it to
Sounds like using AI to write, there are a lot of logic problems, oh I have to say you really don’t know something.
ZSU-23-4M2 has already become the most powerful SPAA around this BR, despite the Kolian, the normal CAS won’t be able to destroy it unless there are at least 2-3 CAS at the same time, then how did suppose be?
That is totally different from WWII CAS, A4E and A10 are able to launch F&F AGMs, and SU25 is also good to against most of the fighters around that BR, and it is not powerful anymore in CAS, most of SPAA around that BR can easily shot it down, even some 9.0 SPAAs
How could let SPAA to stay into open area? The SPAAs duty is taking cover and ambush CAS, and most of them are good with it, Gaijin has already add so many powerful SPAA, but most of players just know stay at their bases.
Then Mordern CAS are only strong if the players are skilled, before L39, which CAS around WWII doesn’t need practice a lot of time? Even Yak9k we can still see tons of players crashed when they try to dive on the target,
Even Battlefield won’t say that it’s an infantry game? And Ground RB is never just a tank mode, this is not WOWS or WOTs, even those games some players will complain about SPGs and CVs.
So we supposed to give way to players who want to get kills for free without practicing? If you just want new players to join and pay, you can say so directly. I don’t want a bunch of people who only know how to drop bombs on the base complaining that planes are hard to fly.
SPAAs are never the only way to shot down CAS, and now they are overpowered for most of CAS
Before we judge the L39, do you really know how bad the L39 FM is? even IA58 is better it sometimes
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I mean the competicion is the vulcan and all the other efficent aa are from 8.0+ not the harsheat competicion
The poin was never the plane but the performance can a su 25 defeat an f5 or a a4e an humter not normaly and if you say they can good so can the l39
Debatable how can this be true avery time, is like waiting behind a corner for 10 min to kill just a tank a show of skill
This is mostly personal but i would like that in the only mode in which i can play pvp tank i dont face only plane tnx to balance on theyr favor (not all the time)
This is debatable on how a defence only tool can be op when you decide the engagement not most but all the time
Never used it only faced it. And for now is only a new shade of unbalanced meccanic