One of the only overtiered Rank VIIIs. But 12.0 material, not 11.7, and sure as hell not 11.0 where the F-104G and F-4F are.
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So it is equal to the F-4S? Yeah I don’t think so
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F-4S should be 12.3.
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You know may be the F-4F is also overrated since F-4EJ is 11.0 too with 4 extra Aim-7E missiles. But I don’t think the python3 or 9L makes up the lack of a SARH missle, even tho 11.0 is too far, I think 11.7 is enough for kurnass 2000, it has the same engine as kurnass in 11.3 but have much less choice in air RB. A better PD radar won’t gain much advantages with those worse-in-rank all-aspects ir
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Still the BR is not good enough since F-18A will be 12.3. It will break a lot of things.
Agreed, this is a 12.0 vehicle through and through. It’s a great vehicle at that, but it would be far too effective at 11.7, or god forbid 11.3… jeez…
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The Kurnass 2000 is by far one of my favorite vehicles in the game and i partially agree. I think 12.0-12.3 is a perfectly fine br for it, but unfortunately it suffers from compression from my experience. especially since the lowering of the F-16A its in a rough spot. the Python 3’s are amazing though. if your target is rear aspect full burner and is only flaring its almost a guaranteed kill (on a good few aircraft it fights), i find alot of F-4’s and F-14’s dont realize they need to cut their afterburner to dodge the thing.
its so handsome :)
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Python 3‘s have irccm, or am I wrong?
Python 3’s do not have IRCCM. they do however have better flare resistance compared to the 9L despite having the same seeker due to its overall speed being higher and its acceleration being faster compared to the 9L (being they get closer to the target quicker making it harder to flare)
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Sorry I was wrong python 3‘s don’t have irccm
I don’t think that having no irccm is a tragedy I use aim9ls on some 13.3 planes and they are very usable
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Given the relative performance with airframes like the Phantom FGR2 (or the even work F4JUNK) currently stuck at 12.0 and probably needing to be 11.7. 12.0 is a minimum. But when compared with the F-16A, definetly pretty clear the Kurnass 2000 probably shouldnt be the same BR with the same weapons fit.
But this is just a compression issue and the US mains being bad at the game forcing a lower than needed BR on their airframe
I found smth for it in my desk lol
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How so?
All you need is a flare to evade the missiles
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The Kurnass 2000 is the prime example of what a 12.3 jet should be.
Kurnass 2000 already went down in BR when its AIM-7 was correctly removed.
EJ Kai is under-BR’d.
The fact you think F-20A, Kurnass 2000, etc should be 11.0 - 11.7 is wild…
It’s a great platform with amazing defensive capabilities and the addition of the Python 3 which has capabilities the Aim-9L lacks.
I really dont know why people think the python 3 is this insane very cracked missile while in reality is basicaly a 9L that pulls slightly more, they have about the same range unless on space bc of the increased drag of the python and have about the same seeker
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It really is just a faster 9L
Their turn circle is similar because the 9L is slower so it can turn harder while pulling less G
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Having a really fast missile is a pretty big buff.
That’s part of why Magic II is considered better than R-73, and why R-27ER and Fakour 90 are considered strong for their class. High speed for a missile is a huge increase in capability.
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U guys give me a lot to think. Now I consider Kurnass 2000 should be in 11.7, but 12.0 is somehow too much, I’ll give my idea.
- F-16A, with 6 9Ls and better airframes, 12.3, no doubt kurnass should be lower than that for more than just 0.3
- F-4j(uk), despite the faster FGR.2 model. They all have greater engine power. Since the Kurnass 2000 has the same engine as F-4E. There’s slightly less window to shoot ur Python 3 without radar locking in this plane. Even if u lock a enemy , it give them a RWR warning so they can notice and flare ur missle easily. U can see now almost all planes now got Large Caliber flares, it make it harder to get a kill if u get spoted. The lack of Aim-7e2 of Skyflash means Kurnass 2000 can’t even go aggresive in confrontation, all it can do is to keep in 39 to avoid SARH missile and later pulled into a dog fight with Planes with better airframe and more engine powered. No HMD also means u can’t perform a effient missle kill with all-aspects in dogfight.
- Mig-23MLD, this is a 11.7 stuff but goes and turn faster than Kurnass while have r60m which is extremly fast in 1km range, and 2 R24R which can perform as good as any other SARH if u lock on enemy and fire instanly before they release counter measures, the PD of R24R will ignore the counter measure even Mig-23’s radar is distracted by them.
4.F-111F a not-that-good 11.7 example, and is carries 9ls and goes really fast with large amount of flares. But most of u won’t even be killed by this thing
Generally this is about how Kurnass 2000 should be in 11.7, this game overrated 9L and Python 3 too much. The irccm is a essential factor for a IR missile. Magic 2 goes well because it accelarrate real fast and unlock G real soon so people don’t have time to make movement against its IRCCM while Python 3 accelarate slower and have no IRCCM and a like 900m G lock during which it only go straight
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