Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

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8459

i only specialy looked at the benelux tree, i might be wrong with spain and turkey i will confess that.
But Benelux doesnt not have a graet top tier or cool auxilary vehicles. MBTs are copy paste german leopards , they dont have any mayor intresting modifications either,

there is 2 fenneks 1 with stinger and 1 with atms /spikes, but fenneks are giant ass targets and might as well just get added to germany if necesary.
The fennek with spikes is a realy bad top tier spaa, the future norwegian nasams with Iris T missles propably will end up in the sweden tree and just be copy paste as well.
Then there is the CV copy paste from sweden.
The only unique addition is the belgium boxer variant with a unique self developed turret.

8460

The Altay would also be interesting, with it effectively being a Turkish take on the K2.

8461

i am speaking for high /top tier, there it is a bad tree, it is better as a sub tree where it can be focused on inresting low /mid tier vehicles that are unique

8462

When they figure out a way to produce it lol.

(no hard feelings to turkish people, just joking around)

8463

Meanwhile Czechoslovakia and Poland sitting in a corner with biggest potential of new combine TT

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8464

In my opinion, having only one area of the tree being prolific with copy and paste is fine as long as with the rest it’s kept to a minimum.

8465

i have to agree, i seem to have forgot most of turksih vehicles only had the leopards 4 in my head thats my bad

8466

They have made a few, however yes, mass production does seem to be a problem at the moment.

8467

The Benelux TT seems to be unattractive at the moment, full of copy-and-paste, although the strength is acceptable
I am more bullish on Poland Turkey
Although they have a lot of copy-paste in aircraft, the ground forces have a lot of characteristics, especially Turkey, in recent years, the Turkish ground forces have a lot of new equipment, all unique, and do not need too many copy-paste to fill the advanced lineup, so I think this new TT with exclusive features is more welcome.
Poland also has a lot of unique vehicles, but probably like the Benelux League, there are many copy-and-paste in the top TT, such as the German Leopard, the American Abrams, which is not very unique compared to Turkey. But… It is still very good to integrate the Czech Republic, Slovakia and other nearby countries into one big TT, such as the one that we have players on our forum, and it will be very good after simplification.
Spain and Switzerland have a shortage of vehicles
Yugoslavia has not been permanently present in history, and the top BR lacks strength and can no longer meet the new environment of WT

8468

i thought high tier air was bad too but it’s actually kinda alright
the dutch NF-5 is a better dogfighter than the standard F-5 but has less ground attack options, there’s the belgian mirage 5 with canards for better maneuverability, that belgian F-16s with magic 2s and AS-30s and some other stuff, and other stuff that’d make this post too long
overall the airframes might not be indigenous but they’ve got enough quirks to them that might make you think twice about what you’re flying

8469

United Korea has my vote. The cool vehicles from SK with the goofy MBTs with manpads and ATGM launchers from NK.

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8470

High tier Yugoslavia would actually be very strong and have tonnes of vehicles due to Serbia and Croatia.

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8471

If we’re talking top top tier then Benelux may fall off a bit, but that’s not all that a tree is supposed to represent.
Generally speaking Benelux has a unique ground tree from top to bottom with the only lacking area being the medium tanks and MBTs.
I think that only using the top tier lineup as reference is a bit disingenuous.

As for the other two, you should definitely check them out!
If you’re not a fan of Benelux then you may not be Spains greatest fan either, but it’s still worth a look to find the unique stuff that they do have. My personal favorite is the LEOX, a Leopard 1 hull married to an AMX-30 turret.

And checking out the Turkish ground goes without saying. I think you’ll be genuinely blown away by it!

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8472

Also, some nations focused more on light vehicles than MBTs, so judging a potential nation only on how many indigenous MBTs it has shouldn’t be done.

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8473

It’s mostly just pattons, Leopard 1s, 2A4s, some modified M60s and the alatay that they can’t produce for MBTs.

8474

Blockquote Czechoslovakia and Poland: unique low tier air/ground, mid tier lacking, high tier diverse and quite unique.

Mid tier would be little bit of copy and paste from the start but later they could add a unique modification of T-55s and T-72 that both Czechoslovakia and Poland made. With air it would be mostly copy and paste. Not sure if Poland had some unique jets they made, but Czechoslovakia have their L-39, L-69 and L-159 Alca light striker jets/training jets that are pretty unique.

Im in big favor odd adding Poland and Czechoslovakia together as one TT as yeah nation pretty much fill their gaps. Especially Poland nicely filling the top tier ground.

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8475

from my perspective it is just when the top tier ends up being same as many other nations you might just as well make them sub trees of those nations that share the most vehicles, in that way gajin can focus on adding the most unique and intresting additions of those tress

8476

but benelux didnt do either if you only count that 1 boxer variant lol

8477

That is something I don’t agree with, but it does shed a much clearer light on your perspective, which I can appreciate.

8478

There were quite a few, actually.