King Tiger - Stars & Stripes König

Would you like to see the American King Tiger added?
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Flag_of_the_United_States.svg_with_bgc King Tiger - Stars & Stripes König
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This Panzer VI Tiger II “Königstiger” (Turret No. 2-11), assigned to the 2nd Company of schwere Panzer Abteilung 506, was captured by American forces. It was later repaired and brought back into running condition by Company B, 129th Ordnance Battalion, 7th Armored Division in Gereonsweiler, Germany, on December 15, 1944.


History
In early 1945, as American forces pushed deeper into western Germany, a Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B, commonly known as the King Tiger or Tiger II, was captured near the town of Düren. The capture took place during operations conducted by the United States Army First Army as it advanced toward the Rhine River.

Düren had already suffered massive destruction from Allied bombing in late 1944. By the time ground forces reached the area in February 1945, the town was largely in ruins. German forces were retreating eastward while attempting to delay the American advance. Armored units in the region were often scattered remnants of heavy tank battalions mixed with infantry formations, operating with limited fuel and supplies.

The King Tiger found near Düren appears to have been abandoned rather than destroyed in direct combat. Photographs taken after its capture show the tank largely intact, fitted with the Henschel turret and armed with the long-barreled 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun. There is no clear evidence of catastrophic battle damage. This strongly suggests that the vehicle was immobilized due to mechanical failure, lack of fuel, or possibly becoming stuck during the German withdrawal.

By early 1945, Germany was facing severe shortages of fuel, spare parts, and recovery vehicles. The King Tiger was an extremely powerful but mechanically complex and heavy vehicle. Breakdowns were common, especially during extended retreats over damaged roads and through devastated urban areas. When a Tiger II could not be repaired or towed in time, crews were often forced to abandon it.

After American forces secured the area, soldiers inspected and photographed the tank as a battlefield trophy. The thick frontal armor, reaching up to 150mm in places, and the high-velocity 88mm gun were of particular interest. Allied technical intelligence teams carefully examined captured heavy tanks to study German armor design, optics, and ammunition performance.

There is no record of the Düren King Tiger being placed into American combat service. Unlike some lighter captured vehicles that were briefly used for testing or limited operations, heavy tanks such as the Tiger II were typically evaluated and then scrapped. It is likely that this vehicle was eventually dismantled or used for ballistic testing before being disposed of.

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Specifications

General Information

  • Origin: Germany
  • Captured By: The United States of America
  • Crew: 5

Armament:

  • Main Gun: 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71
    • Penetration: ~203mm at 100 m, ~182mm at 1000m (AP)
    • High-Explosive: 105mm HE for infantry/soft targets
  • Secondary: 2 × 7.92mm MG 34 machine guns

Armor:

  • Front Hull: 150 mm (sloped)
  • Side Hull: 80mm
  • Rear Hull: 80mm
  • Turret Front: 180mm
  • Turret Sides: 80mm
  • Turret Rear: 80mm

Mobility:

  • Engine: Maybach HL 230 P30 V12, 700 hp
  • Weight: ~69 tons
  • Max Speed: 41.5 km/h (road), 20-25 km/h (off-road)
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 10.1 hp/ton
  • Operational Range: 120–150 km

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Sources

https://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=14145&utm
https://youtu.be/MUlcCQ48T2Y?t=150
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Tiger II - Wikipedia
Captured Royal Tiger - German Armored Forces & Vehicles | Gallery?
captured German Tiger 2 tank and US soldiers | World War Photos?

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+1, and I am here for the comments. This should go well. 🍿

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Back I am to another on of theses posts -1 ofc not regular captured vehicles shouldn’t be added they add nothing to the game unless they are modified to some degree things like the Soviet tiger 2 and American should never come to the game

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As a skin sure but I really don’t think this is needed. If there’s any modifications though I’m in favour

You can see in the very footage that you’ve used as a source that the turret ring was damaged hence why they had to use the recovery vehicle to pull it back around to the front.

Given the nature of its capture, and the lack of any real use, I don’t see any reason for it to be added. It’s not like America doesn’t have any capable heavies of its own.

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I’m a bit on the fence for this one. It’s a pretty notable captured vehicle and it does have some visual differences to make it more unique, but I’m not sure if giving the US a Tiger II is very necessary.
Considering the vehicle likely wasn’t even used in combat service, and wasn’t fully operable, I’m leaning towards no.

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It would be neat as an event vehicle, but it shouldn’t be premium or tech tree.

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Should be rare tho, maybe event or battlepass

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+1 More tigers are always welcome!

The wear and tear and star banners seem to be good visual differences 🤷‍♂️

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Do you really want to accept having some stars on it make a good addition when it was non functional and had nothing done to it

Not everyone minds if it didn’t have any physical differences, it’s not a box that needs to be checked to be added anyways, that’s just some weird rule some have made up.

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Hey I’m just asking when huge parts of the game is anti copy and paste

It has its own differences, it’s not a 1 to 1 copy and missing side skirts, ball turret etc.

Yet it is exactly copy and paste there’s nothing unique and why would there be tanks made to defeat the tiger 2 in a same lineup as tiger 2

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Let’s just buff and lower BR on M26 and introduce M4A3E8 ‘Easy 8’ instead

Because they took it obviously XD

no, it’s a german tank, it should stay with germany, and maybe with country having used them after the war, but not certainly not the usa. Ussr would be fine with it tho, as they already have the tIII, tV, and others as premiums as well (USA has israeli vehicles instead).

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So what if it’s a German tank, maybe don’t abandon your vehicles and follow protocols on abandoned vehicles.

The tree doesn’t need it (American 6.7 is already heavily fleshed out) and it doesn’t add anything new to the game, this would be by far the most unecessary c&p addition to the game

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