Yeah, they can overextend faster and be unable to retreat lol. That’s surely helpful for a player with 0 battles.
Click-Bait is far, far easier to get into than premium T-80 as it has much less crippling flaws you have to work around.
5.3/5.8s isn’t just barely slower than 6.5s.
Increasing your crew help with a lot of things, not just reload so it’s always better to sort it out.
1- it’s no different than any of the tanks listed. I just realized I’ve been saying tkx, but I meant Type90. Hopefully you knew what I meant. The tkx would be even faster to over extend, and hard to survive anyone making use of that mistake.
2- I disagree, positioning for me is much more forgiving in a t series. When 140’ of your tank is unable to target anything that’s not above you. 360’ of viewable targets is a huge advantage for someone not used to worrying about the positioning of their tank.
5.3 and 5.8 are after building your crew up. It’s 6 when you get in. That won’t come for some time.
Abrams, Leopard 2A4M, Type 90, etc are all easier to play than T-80U.
They don’t require cautious play, they’re just stronger when playing cautiously, and all can be used in a hyper aggressive manner whereas T-80s and Chally 2s cannot.
T-80s lack the turret rotation for hyper-aggressive play, and Chally 2s lack the acceleration.
Even Ariete AMV is better at hyper-aggressive play than T-80U and Chally 2, which is why many people stopped calling it bad.
A type90 doesn’t take cautious play? It is the least armored tank of any listed tank so far. Any mistake you make is punished harder than any of the others. No tank has less armor than the type90. Even the ariete is more armored I’m pretty sure.
Fully disagree, agree to disagree.
Hyper aggression needs mobility and awareness, not armor.
Armor is only necessary when playing cautiously.
Caution is slow, caution causes enemies to spot you easier, caution is where armor and/or mobility matter more than pure mobility and awareness.
Hyper aggression requires luck. You can’t control every enemy that moves and pushes you at any time. All the positioning in the world can’t protect you from 2 tanks pushing you at different sides. You have to choose 1 and then your armor comes into play.
That’s where armor comes into play. You can be as aware as you want, sometimes you’re gonna take a shot. All of those tanks come out ahead of the type90.
Armor is necessary at all times, because you never know when someone has a shot on you. Unless you play corners of the map where everyone is away from you in one direction you can control.
And there are only 3 tanks at 11.7 or higher with consistent armor: Leopard 2A7V, Strf 122, and T-90M.
T-80U has semi-consistent armor for ammo that isn’t DM53 or M829A2, but it sacrifices mobility for that armor.
It can reverse out of danger much faster.
Bad gun depression will catch you off guard when trying to peek over a hill and you’ll expose yourself much more. Getting back to cover after shooting is also subpar on the T-80.
Dont forget the awesome 3rd person view in which your gun clips on every object on the map and the gun is constantly jumping up and down and we all know how good Russian vertical movement of the gun is…
Unrelated to your post but thinking that high tier Russians are easier to get into and do well when you have 2A4M and Click Bait right there next to them and even Fuji, 4 seconds reload, good speed and mobility, 4 seconds reload, changeable tilt of the hull which gives it obvious advantages in sniping over a ridge… 4 seconds reload which is somehow slightly faster then 6.5-7 seconds on a T series tanks but when Clickbait fires 5.3 instead of 5 seconds the whole forum starts a riot…
Idk shell names but in general the ufp can eat many darts in this br not mention in a downtier
Sure u lack depression but its not that bad when u have low profile so with hull down u are a monster (auto rf as well) the reverse is annoying but not enough to make the tank bad
U have one of if not the best shell in this br with good reload and u have nice engine
Monster tank i have very fun with it and as i said
2 nukes befkre i spaded it talks for themselfs
Imo it can go to 9.7 with no issue
9.3 is where darts like DM33 are really common so that armor is mostly useful in downtiers.
It’s much worse than 9 degrees of gun depression.
Good shell ? Yes.
The best ? Not really.
Speaking of engine, 18.7 HP/t isn’t anything special at 9.3 and reverse speed makes the mobility that much worse.
Not until KPz-70 moves as well.
Kpz is very good as well but it lacks pen so it cant go up against t80 and leo 2a4
T72 can do that
Engine is not amazing but above average
I mean only gun deppression and reverse are the cons thats it
U have armor in br when no one has it (on leo 2a4 lvl) and maybe on peper its not great but in game i almost never die to ufp shots
most of them are non pen and ur turret is amazing in hull down
I will take t72 on kpz any day
Yes it can.
It will aim at the same spot regardless if it’s going against T-72A or T-80B.
You also lack thermals that most 9.3s have, so that’s yet another con.
I already said that it’s armor is nothing special against 9.3 darts.
Not rly also leo 2a4 will destroy it
Gen 1 thermals arent that useful its not an issue
It is when u are in br with no armor
And again it stops darts idk what game u play but a lot of tank has around 330 pen which it can stops quite well
If it dont stop some high pen darts its cuz the tanks that shoot them have no armor at all or other cons
And ur turret can still stop even strong 9.3 darts
straight up gaslighting
Yes really and 2A4 will clap all 9.3s.
It’s always better to have them and they’re surely helpful.
DM23 is at 8.7, not 9.3.
DM33 is pretty much the average for that BR, it definitely isn’t high pen.
Not r72
Sure but not an issue
Still common on 9.3 and 9.0
Even if u right u still have good turret and usefull armor that no one has
Compare to u everyone are light tanks
Not being able to clap T-72s with 2A4 is totally on you buddy.
It’s definitely a con.
DM33 and above is much more common on 9.3s than DM23.
Your armor against DM33 looks something like this. Simply amazing and it definitely makes up for all of it flaws, right ?
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I said t72 i capable going against 2a4
Minor if so
Doesnt change anything
Yes u are amazing at hull
Every armor is a bless in this br
U russian mains dont know what no armor mbt means
For someone that came from merkava against t90m(clear bias btw) t72 is a monster u just used to have bs armor
Compare it to leo 1
Merkava
X803 and so on
Only 9.3 u can argue is on par is kpz cuz it has top tier mobility with 6 sec reload