But ARH BUk, kh38 and STER30 aren’t??? thats ridiculous
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Gaijin, being hypocritical? No way!
I’m going to continue trying to find that post where they said its not possible to give it limited munitions.
Even JAGM-MR is a bit of a slap in the face.
AH-64E hasnt equipped JAGM-MR yet. But its getting an FnF option that is stronger than the MMW version it should actually have, but we still have SAL Brimstone 1s
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Tbh this only occurred because the base JAGM is MMW only, if the brimstones had a IR variant they would probably be that variant currently.
With the SALH JAGM-MR present however I do see no reason as to why the dual mode brimstone 2 in SALH form cant come.
This is exactly where the frustration comes from.
MMW is one thing. But no Brimstone 2/3 is another. At least there is some hope for a solution with no MMW in the form of Spear-Glide hopefully Gaijin will add them despite not being tested yet
I found the response to another person, however my posts asking the same question was deleted.
JAGM-MR is coming in as IR and SAL, both of which are inferior methods of tracking compared to MMW.
Which is funny, ebcause there is. Mode 2.
Which is literally a “point the laser at the target and when it finds the target, it switches to FnF” mode
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And both are vastly superior to Hellfire that the AH-64D is limited to and the JAGM-MR with FnF fired from a stationary heli outperforms Brimstone 1 fired from a fricking Typhoon.
The US’s new heli literally outperforms Britian, Italy and germanys gen 4.5 jet at the moment
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AH-64D is also a lower BR.
Also as for CAS, AH-64E performs identically to the CAS offered in Britain and Italy; for both have Harriers and Gripens.
And GNSS CAS performs better as a role than the above weapon systems.
Time will tell if helicopter tactics improve to a notable level though.
Reminder as well though, JAGM-MRs are only coming for helis currently, I can see the case for say the AH-1 getting brimstone 2s, but no fixed wing is getting the JAGM-MRs so the eurofighter side is out of the quesiton.
And?
0.3 makes litereally no difference at all. Both the AH-64D and AH-64E will face 100% the same SAM threats as they are all at 12.0.
So Germany is screwed then?
Though doesnt change the fact that the Typhoon is so bad its not even worth mentioning over subsonic jets like the Harrier.
Though if the Typhoon doesnt stand much of a chance, I really dont see how either the Gripen or Harrier stands much of a chance. Especailly with the state of BOL for the GR7.
Yes, but AH-64E nearly outranges SAL Brimstone 1s fired from the Typhoon. Which does at least mean that quantity of FnF missiles with decent range, no longer matters, which will help for arguing things like MMW for the Brimstone 1 on the Tornado.
Never used them unfortunately. That would be the AH-64E. Hoping we get JAGM-MR on the grounds that AH-64E = AH-64E and they dont pull the usual requirement that Britain needs it in their arsenal to get it on any aircraft. They’ve done that before with things like Napalm.
Still doesnt excuse the lack of historically accurate Brimstone 2s over the totally ahistorical Brimstone 1s
This argument went out the window, with the Hornets armaments for Finland. It doesn’t matter if the country didn’t use it. The platform can use it.
Gaijin pretty much dug themselves into a deep hole with all the hypocrisy over the years, and now its finally starting to catch up.
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Except, wheres the Napalm for the Phantoms or Hunters?
Or CM pod for the Harrier GR1?
Its entirely selective. Gaijin can choose when to invoke that or not
Heck, Typhoon FGR4 doesnt even get a 1000lb GPS+SAL GBU because we cant get GBU-48 that the Germany and Italian Typhoons have and they refuse to add ePaveway II
I will say, this was a recent statement they had made.
Like I said, its catching up to them now. Double standards throughout the years.
The community has been tired of this double standards nonsense and its finally boiling over. They’ll continue to ignore any feedback that isn’t positive.
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Yep, but I dont expect anything to change. They will keep being selective
You could make an entire thread with at least 10 examples of the hypocrisy throughout the years, and they’ll just not acknowledge it.
I’m surprised that someone hasn’t done that yet. A compilation of the double standards and hypocrisy. Would be a fun thing to read
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Probably would get closed. Like the KH-38MT not existing thread did, but they close all new threads saying to use the existing one… which is clsoed
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