Kh-38 got big buff (hipocrisy) and SPAA effectivness

It goes mach2. And you gotta move 2 of 3 vehicles just to survive. By the time you move the first one the missiles are already hitting the ground

It actually takes quite a while for it to reach anything at 30km shots though.

honestly, no word
radar dont do anything if ur missiles cant reach anywhere
so being an spaa players u have to constantly moving and let the threat go rent free?
i dont think thats balance

It’s quite the similar problem against GBU-39s btw, and those things actually clogs up your radar with insane amount of contacts

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he was also immobile from his spawn, him repositioning even by a building would’ve cancelled any work of mine to get him, i was literally able to keep track of him with the map and an SPO-15 for a RWR, genuine skill issue if you don’t reposition (which i did since at first i tried a head on attack and failed, hence why i went to his side instead)

this is a very interesting thread about how you can mitigate any f&f munition’s effect by doing simple things such as hiding in trees, behind rocks and moving:

the sad thing is that u have to move 3 sluggish vehicle away from those thing
unlike pantsir, you can move and intercept at the same time
atleast for stuff like slamraam, u are fast, so theres that, but slm, spyder, unlucky

Unfortunately that’s the con of multiple vics. Really makes you wonder why TELARs never hit big in western militaries until recently

i mean multi vehicle wouldnt be bad if gaijin model them correctly
which at current state, its gonna DOA hard

A lot of radars don’t reach that far.

ITO-90 is 20km tops.

Hell, do planes even render at 30km? I imagine not.

So again, it’s just more free kills for the press spacebar gang.

I haven’t even addressed the issue of ammo capacity. The new swedish spaa has 4 misiles, 8 total with an ammo box. A single plane can saturate it and still have 2 kh-38mt left and kill him with those while he’s waiting for the painfully slow reload.

Where’s the counter here? Where’s the rock-paper-scissors?

Again, these weapons need hard limiting to 12km, realism clearly doesnt’ matter as the kh-38mt is in the game so perhaps it’s time for the CAS boys to have a taste of that.

Asides from the missile characteristics, small map size also limits multi vic.

I mean technically the seekers of all IR AGMs are limited to 11km moving tank-sized targets if that matters

one can only beg for gaijin to fix stuff up
i honestly dont know the thought process of gaijin tbh
“Lets add in spaa to counter CAS”
“It must not counter 38mt”
“Why?”
“idk”
“ok lets do it”
process to make all new SAM, which irl has good alt and range coverage become useless brick that cant shoot target further than 10km*
“looks good, whats next?”
“more premium”
yes

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still not enough to move all of them out of the way. And it shouldn’t be like that. Also no one is gonna fire from 30km. Anything above 15 is safe anyway

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3s? I can get 1s with mavs. If GPS get fixed for this it wont need any time to lock. Just much more easier point and click. Idk wheres the problem with lasing. I do fine in a fkn A10 with APKWS against S1 and A10 is very crap platform for this job and thats all in 7-9km range. NOT OUTSIDE SPAA RANGE LIKE KH38

Thats crap balance. Flarakrad and S1 are getting 24 total and slamraam is much much worse on range compared to smth like S1 and u wont even shot down the plane thats spamming these things. As i said 2 planes and u are basiclly done in slamraam (worse for other spaa) and 2 kh38 planes isnt just some rare thing on top tier. Its a standard and with SPYDER or slamraam u will always fight against those

Yeah, I have no idea what they’re thinking either without venturing into conspiracy theory territory.

Ngl, gaijin and their representatives remaining stubbornly silent on the kh-38mt issue speaks volumes though. They’re unable to defend it so they won’t say anything. All they’re really achieving though is people drawing their own conclusions, and those conclusions seem not to be pretty based on what I’ve read.

Never seen so many posts about the kh-38mt and cas in general on Reddit tho. People aren’t happy to put it mildly.

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How could the KH38MT have GPs guidance when its not even a real missile?

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thats from brochure bucko
only ml is real, but they add it to mt anyways

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pantsir players are special. theyre… VERY smart and bad at the game.
sorry for quality, but had to do that.

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Man… These guys stand in place even when they see these 6 gbu39s coming at them lmao

Damn. Ngl u had balls to come that close. The only thing that i wont forgive is that u didnt use gun 😡

Probably because the GNSS module is literally in the main body on the missile and not the seeker head? Even if you switch seeker types the missile it self has ins+gnss, it’s not located in the seekerhead

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