From what I know python 5 is lighter. Uses dual pulse rocket motor and have more range than python 4, also python 4 have the same speed as python 3 mach 3.5 and python 5 can go up to mach 4.
Isn’t block 1 is just aim9x block 2 without LOAL. I don’t think aim9x blk 1 is same level as python 4.
I think there is more to it than that, but it ultimately comes down to how they want to model it.
Aim-9L/M, AMRAAM, etc are just works of fiction at the moment. So they could just model Aim-9X Blk1 to be a chunk weaker than Blk2 so that it acts as a transitionary missile.
Im fully expecting ASRAAM to be massively nerfed
I agree they can just model blk1 to be weaker. Same thing goes with python 4, they can just model it weaker like pl5eii and aam3. Devs said they never artificially nerf stuffs…
In the end what I don’t want is they add python 4 with all the 5th gen missiles together.
chill with the antisemitism ya moron
Imo, dont give it python 4s but give it derby-ER
Python 4 in current shape, looking at statshark missile calculator is only somewhat more maneuverable than AAM-3 when asked to do HOBS, while being shorter ranged due to very short 20s guidance time and high air drag. R73 and Magic 2 can turn far tighter than it.
Its combined tracking suspension + gatewidth sure would be strong… in side aspects, in rear/front aspect it would be similarly vulnerable as 9M or AAM-3
In the long run Python 4 fills in the missing IRCCM that is so badly needed for those JETS in 11.7 to 13.0.
stat’s aside its a step in the right direction. Derby-ER won’t be needed till 5th gen Jets are put into the game later plus the Derby is good enough for BVR at this time i’m talking more on the IR side anyways.
youve only just noticed this? its been around for a long time
bro, actual decent fighters dont get any irccm till 13.0, and the only thing the kurnass 2000 and kfirs need is decompression
Smin said a while ago that 5th gen IRs wouldn’t be coming until we have more advanced planes, which atp is just 5th gens.
Lowkey imo the Python-4 could come, as it wouldn’t be that game breaking if several other missiles were buffed to irl spec (ie the AAM-3 would only ever so slightly worse, basically just lacking the energy to re-engage missed targets). But gaijin has yet to acknowledge any active plans to buff said missiles, so…
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wtf, it has iog irl?
then answer me this Circleati why does other nations (Russia,China,Japan) get to use them but those certain nation??? Logical answer now not personal opinion. The kfir is a decent jet why is it still in use now instead of older ones like the F14 or the Corsair which were a decent jet. your only statment is based on your personal opinion not facts. Xeno_quaza there is no need to buff AAM-3 i’m simply stating there is need for a IRCCM missile for some JETS including the Kfir c.10 block 60. trying to rationalize in another manor is useless fact is there is a need for the python 4 to fill in the IRCCM gap (i have spoken)
Nah, no IOG as far as i’m aware, should clarify that mb, should’ve phrased it better. But again, just further for me saying that re-engaging is the one main thing it lacks. It doesn’t even have IOG as part of tracking suspension, as the Aim-9M should have with push ahead from my understanding.
…which honestly reengaging isn’t even that viable on the python-4, atleast as currently implemented in warthunder it has so much drag it struggles to have the energy to hit a target going more then like mach 0.5 if it misses.
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Correct me but ur suggesting that the Python 4 has the same capability’s of re-engaging as a radar missile? IR missile can’t reengage but can relock to another heat source and kill said target if enough flares are used. more or less your talking about the concept of a caged/uncaged missile head correct
russia china and japan all dont get irccm missiles on an actual fighter till at least 13.0
the kfir c10 is already very strong with 4 derbys, personally i would rather it not get anything so it stays at its current BR
there is no IRCCM gap
does the mig-29 and yak 141 not exist?
true i forgot about the r27t/et but imo they barely count, theyre just worse versions of radar missiles, they cant be fully utilised at close+far range like something the python 4 could, only having FOV irccm on a long range missile is uhhh not great
plus 90% of time everyone would rather use the radar variants for a reason
also those are still 12.7 other guy was saying the gap was 11.7-130
Circleati i’m going to give you some time to look around the other nations and see what i mean you are apparently confused its frustrating when a subject like this goes over your head. Kizvy i’ve seen that picture before and it does go along with the HMD concept. most people don’t have a VR headset or can the remember to use the key bind for looking down the enemy while in a dogfight say 3v1. personally i can’t so ya lol