KF51 Panther

You can shoot at the lower plate of any Russian tank, and it will easily explode, weak point on the turret, easy to take out a crew, unlike the Leopard 2A7, which has the strongest turret in the game.

Should I say that the Leopard 2A7V is more effective as a support tank? Or rather, it’s a versatile tank that can both use the terrain to its advantage and rush, and still come out alive. I’m aware of the weaknesses of the Leo 2A7V, but the hangar test doesn’t work in practice; a Leo 2A7 rarely gets one-hit killed.

Apparently, the T-90M lacked isolation armor plates, so this tank could easily explode

The T-90M has its ammo under the crew. Not a very ideal place for it to be if it cooks off.

Yes, they explode like any other fuel tank. Leaving aside the RNG, the multipliers to each tank and the chance of killing a tank with fuel tanks explosions (wich all are lower in russian tanks)

Look closely and you would notice ALL the fuels tank from the T-64´s to the T-90´s are inside the tank and if im not wrong the T-90M lacks about isolation panels. When in the 2A7V the side fuel tanks are outside the tank and only 2 are at the back of the tank. Even if you think these are at the back of the crew this is not true because from the first Leopard 2 (the Leo 2A4) they are COMPLETELY separated and isolated from the crew compartment by a 40mm+ laminated plate (in the game it says it is an 8mm but it is incorrect). Even you can see the visual difference in thickness with the 35mm laminated side armor that insulates the fuel tank.

Not all times. Like when you shoot them at the side and hit 2 charges of ammo and the tank doesnt explode. It is called RNG (Random Number Generator) wich in russian tanks have less chance of “exploding” than a Leclerc for example. From 10 shots ONLY at the fuel tank (without touching nothing more insided the tank) of any Leclerc variant i kill them 8 of these 10 shot. However on an T-80XXX series or T-90A/M tank from the same 10 shots to the fuel tank AND AMMO CHARGES they die 7 of these 10 shots where logically the probability is higer and they should die 10 of these 10 shots but they manage to die 7 of these 10 shots

I strongly disagree. The 2A7V have a strong turret but are the “weakest” of all the Leopard 2 family (after the 2A4 and the PL of course). And its because a “”“bad modeling”“” issue, artificial armor holes and the artificial nerfs applied to this tank (where the armor are taked from a Leopard 2A4 with B-tech inside the hull and D-tech for addon armor but thats other topic)

The Leopard 2 tanks (From the 2A5 to the lastest 2A8 [aka 2A7A1]) like any other nato tank are made to be strong (wich in the game they really arent at the real level. “I dont know why”) and to offer the maximum survivability to the crew

Yes it is a versatile tank but the Leopard 2 tanks are made more to “defend” than attack or “rush” like you said. IRL rarely you´re going to see any Leo 2 rushing alone to enemy lines, unless that the army commanders know these positions are clear of enemy infantry or almost clear (even if they´re at the open field). However if there´s no chance to do other thing than “rush” they won´t do it like unheaded chickens. Or in other cases where the army have a bad strategy or they´re used to other vehicles/tanks and they just use incorrectly these tanks. Sadly in game they do it (and now with these sh*t CQC maps even more) when IRL they wouldn’t. And for me this is a issue, not knowing a tank is a really BIG issue for the game, matchs and teams

Sadly like I said before in the game have more weaknesses than IRL. And if you struggle to kill one 2A7V sorry to say but it is a skill issue. I killed a lot of 2A7V hitting them right under the cannon, or the driver hatch, even if they are “angling” with one shot. And if you see them flanking from the side you need shot them at almost the top of the hull where the second non-composited side skirt start “EXAMPLE” and voilà you one-shot a 2A7V from the side (no matter if are the right or left side because the spall liner on this tank let pass more spall than a BVM without them). However the STRV 122 (beside the better armor [wich IRL the 2A7V have better armor] and the non nerfed/“”“bad modeled”“” holed armor) are more “difficult” to kill. And i noticed that playing both tanks a lot. I noticed the 122 have more chance of “ricochet” at a 0º angle in the UFP area (trying to hit the driver hatch) than the 2A7V (2A7V having better armor) and the gun mantlet of the 122 are more difficult to penetrate too. IRL the gun mantlet have at least 600mm or more of armor in all Leo 2 after the 2A4 (without having in mind the addon armor in top of the cannon and the arrowhead addon at the turret cheeks). So yes the gun mantlet of all the Leo 2 (except the 2A4) are artificial weakspots

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The “funniest” part is when you get shot at the side fuel tank in the 2A7V and you turn your turret leaving 1 second the turret ammo at the top of the fire and it explodes (being at the 100% of “life”) or when you´re at CQC and a enemy with a 7.62 coaxial mg can penetrate the back side of the 2A7V and hit the radiators and the engine. The 2A7V is the first in need of a good rework of armor and damage model and leave aside once for all the artificial nerfs that have been added to these Leo 2 since the 2A5 (and all the nerf to other western tanks aswell). You can tell they rushed the Leo 2A7V after the Leo 2 PSO fiasco.

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Should be added to Italian TT aswell

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is italy really eligble for receiving the kf 51? How? I mean that would be great.

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Italy TT, and irl KF51 is commig to hungary army faster that to germany. And hungary is part of italy TT in game.

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Tbf the KF51 EVO ordered by Hungary isn’t comparable to the demonstrated KF51.

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germany should still get both as both are produced in germany, even the initial hungarian lynxs was produced in germany

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No only the ones that they used or made that no one else adopted unless that nation isn’t one that has a tree

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Germany produced these versions of the kf31/41 Lynx:





And this version of the Kf51 Panther:

Germany can and should receive all of these as they are all produced in germany as well as designed by it

Did another nation adopt them that has a tree in game

only the hungarian lynx which still should come to germany too

Hungarian lynx no Germany shouldn’t get that

Germany doesn’t get the Swedish Leopards
UK doesn’t get the American harriers

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imo should as it is a technology right

Thats not how this game work my game

you don’t get something because a company that’s in your nation makes it

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kinda does bro…
all military vehicles that were added but not put into service were added to the nation of design, so it stands to reason that this should not be an exclusive case, but ofc, the snail moves in mysterious ways

if no other nation that has a tree uses them