If this logic is followed, then Finland should get kv1b
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Finland kv1b should not be exclusive to the Soviet Union and should be added to the Finland tech tree in Sweden.Finland as they are the first (and currently only) operator of the vehicle.
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So objects have even less business being in the game. Lmao.
Kf41 was invented and built by germans, before selling the build rights to other country. That’s plenty enough to put it in german techtree.
That was what I was thinking. Look at the bretich techtree. It has lots of test vehicles that were never mass produced besides one demo vehicle. Why can’t Germany get versions of the kf41 when the invented and built the vehicle. The kf120 would be cool for instance. Nah let Germany wait 3 years agin for some mid MBT while other country’s get there vehicles first or improved versions of them.
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I mean Germany couldn’t even get the r73 at the same time as Russia. Need to wait another patch.
What is the connection between Italy and modern Hungary?
It feel like GJ before adds a vehicle spins a wheel of fortune to determine which TT will go to.
(Yes, GJ did it to spice up some less popular Italian TT, but still)
Prototypes are always allowed in WT.
Prove KF-41 never entered production & never entered service for another country.
There are other KF prototypes that can be added instead.
Foxmeup said germany shouldn’t get the Lynx, because they never used it like brits never used the 2E (but that’s somehow different lmao) so it has nothing to do with being production vehicle or prototybe, but if the nation used it or not.
I know prototypes are in game and i hope we get more of them, because they are often different and unique.
And somehow you seem to think other countries using the vehicle one country invented means the country it originated from shouldn’t get it. Like that makes any damn sense…
Huh? I never said it didn’t enter production or service?
There have been plenty of other toptier vehicles germany could’ve gotten for the past 3 years… That just hasn’t happened, so obviously we are pissed about not getting the best Leo in the game and now missing out on the Lynx too.
Thats a huge mistake. Not adding German tech to Germany is just iffy. Hungary is no own ingame nation and just saying all Hungarian units automatically go to Italy makes no sense.
Why are we getting the Leopard 2PSO then? Its not used by German army as well. Why do the Russian or US or any tech tree have that many units they never used? 2S38 isn’t used by the russian army. Challenger 2E isn’t used by the british army. Black Knight isn’t used by the British. Kürassier tank isn’t used by France. M1 Abrams AIM isn’t used by the US Army. And so on… despite all this these vehicles are added to the countries of origin.
Stona, the German Tech Tree is the Tech tree of Germany as a whole. Not just that of the Bundeswehr. Rheinmetall and the location of the main production plant for the Lynx are located in Germany.
Is there any problem Gajin has with Germany in General? Cause considering all these export and object tanks ingame, your statement seems to make only litte sense. Seems to be unfair at best :(
Well, you always write this. Why don’t you add any of these, then? And why this habbit to somehow invent new ingame rules to give third nations that often better German tech than Germany itself? Currently Sweden has most and best Leopard tanks and Italy has the best German IFV. Whats next?
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Its build in a Rheinmetall plant in Germany. Its located in a town name Unterlüß. The first dozen tanks came directly from Germany. Currently, there is just a joint venture for a final assembly line & maintenance in Hungary. Its not really produced in Hungary. Just the typical joint ventures to localize it a bit, while the key components are comming all from Germany.
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I saw literally nobody supporting the German Hunter. We wanted the Alpha Jet…
Not if the Puma had working APS and accurate armor.
Because currently it’s 41 metric tons of “stops 20mm if you’re lucky” and turret getting ammoracked by .50 cals
They said it’ll be a separate vehicle like the SPIKE Puma which is sad because we not only always get stuff late but the fact that we have a MiG-29A already means that the MiG-29G with R-73 will take at least 3 major updates.
What? Hungary is officially a subtree for Italy, it’s obvious all Hungarian stuff goes to that tree now.
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That’s not the final assembly when the assembly starts with welding the armor plates together. So stop spewing utter fuckin nonsense and study a bit before commenting. Furthermore, Germany has an IFV. It’s called the Puma, so stop crying like a spoiled child in the comments of a video game.
What is, however, final assembly, is the Czech and Slovak CV-90 contracts…now they are truly only doing final assembly and maintenance if they ever get there.
Blockquote. This pre-series production is considered an important milestone, which also includes the production of the Lance 2 medium-caliber turret and other Lynx KF41 variants. Full-rate production (FRP) has begun in summer 2023. source
Furthermore, even the turret is built in Hungary not just the hull.
BTW you wanna know a funny little story as to how the Lynx even became a thing? Hungary wanted to order Puma IFVs, however as the volume of it would have been more than 200, the German government decided to slip in fast before the Hungarians and ordered a few hundred that shrank down over the past years to 50. That’s why HU gave up on the Puma and decided to finance the Lynx. And how KMW got fucked royally by Germany. So keep the nasty German hands of the Lynx.
Without this order, there would be no KF41 Lynx aside from a tech demo.
This made me laugh. You know that Italy has the Dardo, Freccia and VCC 80/30, literally three times as many IFV as Germany at 10.0, right? Not to mention a couple more a few BRs lower. Sounds like Italy really, REALLY doesn’t need the KF41 then.
It’s still a vehicle developed in and made by Germany. Germany is neither just the government nor just the Bundeswehr. If you really think it should not go to Germany too, then you also have to advocate to remove all other export vehicles. There are alot of vehicles that never really saw proper production because neither their country of origin nor any other country wanted to buy them.
Noone wants to take the KF41 away from Hungary/Italy, it should just be in both techtrees. If anything, the people arguing against Germany getting it too make better points for Italy/Hungary not getting it in the first place.
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Again, the German techtree doesn’t mean “Bundeswehr” or “German government”. With your argument, probably around 1/3 of all vehicles should be deleted from the game. Especially export vehicles.
Buy a backup for your Freccia, Dardo, and VCC 80/30, bam you have six.
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This makes no sense. The whole game is full of vehicles which never saw service nor were adopted by the armed forces of a particular nation. If private enterprise vehicles, which weren’t adopted by the armed forces should be excluded, I just asked you why we have things like the Adats, Sgt York, Black Knight, all american super and most russian super heavy tanks, 2S38…and…yes…also the upcoming Leopard 2PSO is just a private venture prototype which was rejected by the armed forces of Germany.
So please try again and this time without double standards. Not giving private enterprise vehicles to its country of origin would suddenly delete more than 40% of the vehicles in TT like the US or Russia.
Also none of the Tech Trees is named after any armed force. There is no Bundeswehr Tech Tree. No Red Army one. No US-Army one and so on. All we ingame have are full nations, which include everything. You should have known this before starting to aguement that strange.
I also have to tell you that the defense sector in Germany is very strictly state controlled. No private enterprise can just develop weapons by their own and especially CAN’T export the like the wan’t. There are tight regulations and the consent of the German MoD and the German MoE (Ministry of Economy) is mandatory. Without consents of the German state not a single bullet leaves the country Mr. Packet Loss.
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Clear indication how wrong your earlier posts were. Thx for posting this.
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Vehicles that are private ventures and only became a thing by the financing of a buyer should not be in the tech tree of the nation to which the firm belongs, especially when that nation has alternatives.
you do understand that we talked about different things ? i hope. thats an “and” there not an or.