The M1A1 AIM being foreshadowing to more Australian stuff in America is very unlikely.
And yet the KF41 was not selected by Australia, the K21 was. There have not been any trial vehicles to go to a tech tree other than the nation that trialled it (Such as the AH-64 to Sweden) or the nation that built it (Challenger 2E).
It’s foreshadowing that Australia is not a sub-tree of Britain and their vehicles can go wherever they fit most appropriately.
Remember that I was just stating my opinion, I’m not discrediting the possibility that Gaijin will add the Australian KF41 to Germany, I am just protesting it in advance.
If having a different opinion online is “making my own grave” then call me a professional gravedigger because I’ve got a lot of them.
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Also Gaijin just gave an Australian Leopard 1 skin to Germany. And not as a market camo but as an official release.
I agree. But you are missing the point where australia is not part of the game and as a result it goes to the developer nation.
Uk has no right to it. It has been stated multiple times already that australian and canadian vehicles are not at home in the british tree.
Since australia is not in the game the best place to implement it is its home nation of germany.
Its the exact situation as the 2a4m can. Its specialy developed for canada and still went to germany. You know how many other leopard versions could have replaced the 2a4m can , which arent canada specific?
Yeah literaly doesnt matter.
Besides that were australian developed vehicles.
Not ones exported from another country.
Not a kf41 / a prototype which isnt a fully released version.
Hungary specific denied
Eveeything points to this since it the most finished version easy as that
Or just the kf41 aus to germany
Honestly the british playerbase is the most entitled Playerbase just demanding the whole seriously annoying. Uk has no right to every commonwealth vehicle this has been stated multiple times
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Swiss F-18 huh
- Switzerland ain’t a sub-tree
- Was never in service for Germany
- Nothing German about it
Double standards eh?
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Not a sub tree but Swiss vehicles are housed in Germany, this has already been confirmed by Smin.
Then maybe it will work as a British premium, event, squadron, etc. But my point is that this is a unique model of the KF41 for Australia, Sweden did not recieve unique “Swedish” models of the AH-64, T-80U, or Mi-28, otherwise I think they would fit better in WT.
Maybe, but I personally don’t see a singular Abrams variant as definitive proof of that. Let me know when Germany gets a Leopard AS1 or Aussie Boxer though.
Irrelevant when Japan’s F-4EJ ADTW got one as well, just another easy way for Gaijin to sell packs.
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Buddy that was before eurofighter implementation when we expected it to be way later.
The kf41 isnt a gap filler for uk when there is several differenr options.
Besides that swiss sub tree for germany was leaked by thebtrusted leakers
Its nothing about double Standards.
Additionaly uk already has 2 sub trees
Geemany literaly has none and uk and germsny has the same amount of possible additions overall
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Buddy jesus just take the redback dont get stuck up on a declined vehicle which is german developed and would go to germany following implementation laws
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Again, was not accepted for service by Australia
The gap is gone so name a single time post-Eurofighter where said anything along those lines.
At that time, the EF was “too advanced” and wasn’t coming anytime soon and especially there was no domestic option.
Britain has the domestic Ajax which fills the role of the KF41.
lol, I said "never in service for Australia " (not UK), the F/A-18C is in service with the Swiss, you can’t even get the comeback right XD
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Aussie M1A1 AIM in the US tree. In the future, SEPv3 is likely to also end up in the US tree (considering these two variants are the only ones that Austrialia has operated).
Let me know when Germany gets a Leopard AS1 or Aussie Boxer though.
Womp womp. Deliveries are starting this year. Yes, it’s a technicality, but it’s a “Aussie variant” ;)
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Maybe this is Gaijin’s logic, but I will happily voice my disagreeance with it since it has never fully been confirmed and they make exceptions to their own rules on a regular basis.\
The UK doesn’t, Australia does, and at the moment, their largest presence is in the British tree. If people want them somewhere else then I agree that the KF41 AUS can follow them there.
Just because it isn’t in the game as a main or subtree doesn’t deny that it exists in some way. There are already a couple Australian ships and aircraft in the researchable tree. Canada has a couple ships and ground vehicles as well, as does Argentina, Austria, Czechoslovakia and a few others.
These nations have unlockable vehicles in their respective trees that have their flags plastered in the backgrounds of their vehicle cards. So to say that they “aren’t in the game” just isn’t true.
It may not suprise you to learn that I don’t agree with this decision either. But it means nothing since Gaijin went and added the Ram II to the UK a few updates later, so don’t let yourself get too acquainted with their inconsistencies.
I am not asking for copy paste exports, I am asking for a unique modified export vehicle. If you aren’t a fan that’s okay but I don’t agree with separating domestic and export just because it doesn’t fit a certain nation’s vibe.
I see no problem with a prototype KF41, there are already many other prototypes in the German tree.
I don’t really remember what sets the Hungarian model apart from the German one, but if true this would mean that you can happily enjoy a German production vehicle without needing the AUS version.
Germany is trying to export standard KF41s to multiple different nations, so they obviously have a finished production model that isn’t just the Hungarian variant.
Still disagree, but to each their own.
I try not to lump myself together with them, but if Gaijin is providing so many obvious supplier nations to the British tree then it would be a mistake not to take advantage of it. Of course I’m still much more in favor of some sort of combined Commonwealth tree but I think we both know there’s basically no chance of that ever happening.
Anyhow, it’s getting late over here so I ought to get some sleep. Good talk though
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You can remove “AUS” from its name, the KF41 was not chosen by Australia so it’s just a “KF 41”. By right of “operated or not”, this vehicle simply has no place in the Aussie “national tree” as it never went past the trial stage, similarily, you don’t wanna see M1A2 or Leclerc in the Swedish TT just because they’ve trialed them, right?
Did Germany ever trial the Lynx?
No. At least not in any “official capacity”, but they had the BW run it through for tests.
You got any sources for that, couldn’t find anything so far
Imo it shouldn’t come to neither tech tree since it wasn’t adopted by Germany or Australia. It was a private development with focus on export customers by Rheinmetall just like the KF51.
It has a good reason to stay in Italy with Hungary having it already in service and Italy just having ordered over 1000 units.
No, but any and all AFVs have to be run thru BW first to receive an export permit, that’s how the German law works (or worked, maybe they’ve changed it, but I remember that being a thing back in early 2010s with the 2A7+ specifically).
Imo it shouldn’t come to neither tech tree since it wasn’t adopted by Germany or Australia.
Germany doesn’t even “really need” the Aussie variant, they can just straight up get the “Rheinmetall” variant (which is identical, as KF 41 is a single common variant). Alas, by this logic, so was the Vickers Mk.7, originally aimed at Egypt (ye sure it’s not in the game per se), yet it’s been added to the UK.