Japanese amphibious tanks are so cool! +1. I think it would be best, if it was one vehicle with two modifications :)
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I personally would not be mad if two vehicles. Maybe Type 1 as tech tree version and type 2 as premium at the same br. Since japan lacks vehicles of same br to make effective lineups. But dont really care is its just one as long as they add it.
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It propably havent been fully bulit, but i will take any vehicle, which is somewhat real, for Japan. Unfortunately this will be to low BR for me to play it and 1.0-2.0 has enough vehicles to choose from.
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I definitely think Gaijin should go with Type 5 To-Ku for the tech tree with the modification option for the pontoons, I wish it were like that with Ka-Mi, +1 from me.
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Not sure if I interpreted it correctly. The thing about 1 or 2 vehicles was not about floats. Imo it should have both floats even Ka-Mi should finnaly get its floats. But the 1 or 2 vehicles was if to add To-ku type 1 and type 2 (one with 25 mm in turret and one with 25 mm in hull) as separate vehicles or not.
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Thanks for the clarification, I completely forgot about that part, from my point of view adding Type 1 and 2 should be a single vehicle in the technology tree, with the option of modifications to choose from, but it could also be that one could be a premium, so that it does not happen like it did with the German 234 family, which are mostly special.
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+1 as a tech tree vehicle! Fairly well-armored, especially for an amphibious tank, with some solid firepower to boot. This would be a wonderful way to bridge the gap between the Ka-Mi and the M24!
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Indeed
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That’s publicly available. What is your catch, most of the things people suggest are often based on Publicly available info. So unless we can find someone that has access to the archives. We simply don’t know.
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Well he is simply wrong it very much left design stages. Sources we have say they were unfinished vehicles under construction or even sereval finished. Both cases are perfectly viable to be added to the game since there are many other unfinished vehicles or prototypes in game. Only thing lacking are photos of the vehicles under construction - simmlary to O-I. But thats simply because japanese high command ordered to destroy most documents and vehicles not to fall in hands of americans thats why its so rare to find some.
The O-I has primary documents confirming that it was undergoing testing in 1943 and subsequently sent to the scrapyard due to its failure. As far as I can find, no such documents exist for the To-Ku.
more naval boat tanks pls :D
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Hell yeah!
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Does not need to be tested to be added. It does not even have any new untested weapons. All the weapons it uses existed and were tested. All the other stats are also known.
There are so many not fully finished or untested vehicles in game.
A lot of those XP planes in US tree
E-100 was just hull. Ho 229 V3 was incompleted. ME 264 was also incompleted I belive.
A lot of russian stuff.
Chi-Ri didnt have its main gun fitted.
Ho-ri we have in game had just wooden mockup and gun existed.
Even more so in navy such as Kronshtadt was in 10% stage. Most of russian navy in game is full of unfinished ships with untested guns and not just russian navy other navys have some too.
Etc etc.
Late axis weapons should be added even if not fully finished or tested. To-Ku would clearly be finished if for little more time before end of ww2. We know it left design stage and was in production with some sources claiming some vehicles completed while others just parts and not assembled. And even if uncompleted it is very much worthy to be added.
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the O-I could be amazing event vehicle/vehicle only obtainable during the anniversary, Like the maus
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A lot of those XP planes in US tree
Only the XP-50 and XP-55 fit that bill, albeit the XP-55 is far more egregious by being an actual paper plane and using its planned weaponry instead of the weaponry it was actually built with. The XP-50 just crashed before they ever fitted its weaponry in, consequently they never rebuilt it.
E-100 was just hull.
That’s why it’s a special event vehicle. It is an impossible tank that would have had its chassis literally broken by the Maus turret, which is why the plan was to use either the lighter Maus II turret or a specially designed turret for it.
Ho 229 V3 was incompleted.
It was incompleted, but Gaijin’s interpretation is also fictional. The V3 was going to explecitely be an unarmed flying prototype, which is why the surviving fuselage has no holes in its wing roots for guns. The V4, V5, and V6, the actual two-seat (V4 and V5) and single-seat (V6) fighter versions, were under construction too but were far less complete by the end of the war.
ME 264 was also incompleted I belive.
Nah, the Me 264 is weird. From what I could fine, it’s either a paper design or fictional. The Jumo 213E engines were either proposed early on and rejected in 1942, or proposed later on and never fitted for the “final design.” In either case, the V1 prototype only ever used Jumo 211J and then BMW 801 engines before it crashed. Both the V2 and V3 were never completed due to cancelation of the project and their dismantlement after it became clear that the “Amerikabomber” was a pointless project by October of 1944. The V1 was also unarmed, though I don’t know if either the V2 or V3 were intended to be armed or not, or if the V1 is just in the same case as the BV 238 where it had been destroyed before weapons could be fitted.
A lot of russian stuff.
Vague and incorrect. Russia is one of the least offensive tech trees in this regard, with only the Yak-141 (semi-realized prototype), the Kronshtadt (Pr. 69, paper design), the Izmail (not completed), and the Shherbakov (not completed, event vehicle) falling into these categories. This is tied with the USA (M6A2E1, M1KVT, XP-50, XP-55), Britain (TOG II*, A.C.IV, Sea Meteor F. Mk. 3, Swift F. Mk. 7) and Sweden(Lago I, Sherman III/IV, strv 74, J 29 D); but beaten by Italy (6 fake/paper/semi-realized vehicles), Japan (12 vehicles), and Germany (15-18 vehicles). Only China (M36, Object 122MT, MiG-9 Late) and France (SO 8000 Narval and VDAA SANTAL) have less.
Chi-Ri didnt have its main gun fitted.
Surviving documentation indicated that it was fitted, but then removed prior to American capture.
Ho-ri we have in game had just wooden mockup and gun existed.
Yeah, the Prototype is the mockup with a bunch of features the mockup didn’t have, since it was a miniature, in order to make it work. The Production is utter fiction. Both of them should be removed from the trees, with the Prototype already having been removed for sale.
Even more so in navy such as Kronshtadt was in 10% stage. Most of russian navy in game is full of unfinished ships with untested guns and not just russian navy other navys have some too.
Refer to above. Only the Kronshtadt is a paper design and only the Izmail and Shherbakov are incomplete ships. Germany (Z 46, Z 47, SMS Ersatz Yorck, SMS Sachsen) and Italy (RN Comandante Margottini, RN Etna, RN Conte di Cavour, RN Francesco Caracciolo) both have more.
Late axis weapons should be added even if not fully finished or tested. To-Ku would clearly be finished if for little more time before end of ww2. We know it left design stage and was in production with some sources claiming some vehicles completed while others just parts and not assembled. And even if uncompleted it is very much worthy to be added.
Sure.
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Thats irony or you changed your mind?
If sure why are we even having this conversation?
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Because there’s nothing further to be said. I can’t change my mind and no one has been able to present any first hand documentation for the To-Ku. The only sources I’ve managed to find are second-hand, and both of them disagree with each other on the status of its construction.
Except that isn’t the plane we have in-game.
The Me 264 V1 had no defensive armaments and the one in the picture is using the 1,420 PS Jumo 211J engines, not the 1,750/2,050 PS Jumo 213E engines that are used in-game. This was later replaced by 1,750 PS BMW 801G engines.
At best, the Me 264 in-game is a semi-realized design, even if it had the correct engines. No Me 264 was ever armed and if the Me 264 V2 and V3 weren’t intended to be armed, either, then that puts the Me 264 in the same boat as the Kikka, albeit the Kikka is a far more egregious paper design regardless.