I’m also curious to how this system works, is it voice prompted, or does it display on a screen or panel?
CK37 is described as using Integrated Circuits (IC) but not a microprocessor. A microprocessor is a particular complex kind of IC, but not all ICs are microprocessors.
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Ahh, so it’d take a thorough overview of the circuitry to be able to make the claim.
right so there are about 50 pages and i cba to send each one so if you want it you’ll have to add me on discord or something (Jadenbetter) and i’ll link you the file
@Zyranovos
tho i will be heading to bed shortly
this is just the one computer and how it functions as a computer
CK37 is the ones for the non fighters which i also have but i had the ja37 readily available so have that too if you want
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So you are saying a craft that is 7 years older then the F14 is more technologically superior? Because it happen to have Miro what ever’s first and the the f14 could not have possibly had better and more of them after it was mad 7 years later?
When the F-14 was built, it was fairly impressive, most certainly not the first computer to use Microprocessors, that would be the Intel 4004. This was the first ever aircraft onboard digital navicomputer, that of which the F-14 was not the first of.
not what I was getting at.
Then you were getting to?
Is it “more technologically superior” I suppose.
yeah the tech in the F14 might have been better thats why it was praised more
Major reason it’s praised was the 1986 movie “Top Gun” and being heralded as “the world’s first microprocessor.” As far as tech advancement goes, other than the AIM-54’s, it wasn’t all that.
The Viggen on the other hand retains legendary status from being the only foreign aircraft to lock a SR-71, worlds first compact airborne Navi computer, unconventional canard design, extreme maneuverability, and its STOL capabilities.
To be fair, I may be slightly biased towards the Viggen because of my love for it, but it does have some blatant issues as such did the F-14, a main one being if your AOA exceed 25 you entered “The danger zone” (pun intended) and have a compressor stall, and the thrust reverser in the early models led to the death of a few pilots due to them engaging it while still in air.
Of which the F-14 shared a similar issue of compressor stalling (also shown in the movie “Top Gun”) as well as being extremely expensive, and could not physically land on a carrier without all of its weapons (excluding guns) expended.
The F-14 was by no means a bad aircraft for its time, as such was the JA37, both heralding the same advantage in different time periods. (Keep in mind the computer CK-37 was mounted to the AJ Viggens, the later JA Viggens has the SCK-2037 computer, a more modernized and efficient version entered into service in 1979)
Yet again, I think the F-14 was given much credit to something it didn’t really do. But it wasn’t a bad aircraft. The praise it gets is from Top Gun fans and Northrop Grumman glazers, so it’s to be expected.
By the way, the F-14 and CK-37 use the same chipset style of construction, like someone above said, some IC’s are Microprocessors, but not all microprocessors are IC’s. (IC stands for integrated Circuit)
(Intel 4004 Date: 1971)
Not to mention the computer on the F-14 only controlled the wings and some flight systems.
Aye just saying something had to earn it that title so maybe there is still classified info on the F14.
In this era of tech and stealth, I highly doubt it. It is the same IC type system as was the CK-37, meaning it used the same tech, 7 years later, to do arguably ≤ the CK-37. (Keep in mind, the creation of the CDAC started in 1968-70, while the CK-37’s prototypes were created 1965-68, the Viggens first flight was on Feb 8th, 1967. The F-14 Tomcat first flew on Dec 21st of 1970.)
This statistically puts the AJ37 at a point making it better than the F-14 by using a similar IC system, 2-3 years before the F-14, while working with “less advanced” technology and people (this is what some people argue).
The First AJ37 delivered on the 21st of June, 1971, while the first USN F-14’s arrive almost a year later in June of 1972.
Here is an article over the development of the CK-37:
Doesn’t the F14 actually have a crazy good K:D ratio? Could that be the reason
164:1
ARH in a time when other countries were just getting SARH and All-Aspects, yeah, its total load was impressive too. Other than the fact of outclassing the crappiest Soviet tech in the Cold War in the Iran-Iraq war, it would have had at least some equal.
Given that Sweden hasn’t engaged in warfare since 1814, Viggen wasn’t able to show its abilities.
Haven’t they sold it to other countries?
To the JA37 to the SR-71 lock on that was in 87 you know 21 years after the SR entered service in 66 so yeah of course it could the Sr was outdated anyone could lock on it’s just missels could not catch it. Yet.
No, Gripen is the only exported SAAB jet other than the SK-60 (Can’t really count because it’s a trainer) and the J35 Draken.
isn’t the J35 draken a diffrent craft from the JA37?
I believe you don’t understand the light of the situation it was in, Sweden and the US actually together developed some parts the JA37. The lock on is a usual thing that the US “consented” to allow Sweden to do after some JA37 pilots saved an SR71 from possibly being forced into the ocean by some Soviet MiG’s, they allowed this as a part of training for the Swedish pilots, it’s a long story you have to learn about yourself.