Can anyone tell me how do I play the supposedly OP J7-D? Every single game is 11.3 - 11.7 where I have no chance to do anything. I side climb at 10 degree angle with radar off and keep below the contrails. Both PL-5B and PL-7 are extremely flare hungry and the PL-5B randomly loses lock on planes flying straight. How do I make this plane work?
Its not OP, just good. I know reading the plarp on here makes it sound like some P2W beast but its not at all
PL5s are great missiles- you can dunk them from 3- 4km away. Iv never seen them just lose lock for no reason. Think of them like darts and fire at edge of gimbal/ lead the missile as much as you can
Id stay well under contrail height too, 2- 3 km and drop on base runners for ez kills
Compared to many 10.7 is way too good. So… OP?
Loiter around 5km and fire missiles at people that are busy or unaware, my preferred distance of launching is <4km for the PL-5B and <2km for the PL-7 when I’m right on someones 6
Uptiers really aren’t an issue, the scariest thing is probably the MiG-23 and that thing’s radar is super easy to break
Yeah, but the R-24R won’t care. If the radar illuminator is still on you, you will get hit with it.
I’ve only ever died post-notch due to forgetting about IOG when it’s a close launch personally
I don’t quite believe that. The R-24R when launched in proper parameters is a guaranteed kill unless you pre-chaffed the lock quite early to allow you to escape being painted by the radar.
In a 5-6km range the missile is very fast and even after notching (if you managed to pre-notch, or you wouldn’t have time either) and switching your flight path, the missile will almost always sucessfully hit by proximity fuse.
When I play the MLD, I often pre-lock with IRST and just switch to radar to shoot the missile. Ez kills
Maybe I just don’t face skilled enough MiG-23s then? Personally don’t find them an issue, but so far I haven’t really faced anyone piloting it at an exceptional level so
? Look at 10.7s
Ignoring strike jets, theres some good stuff. F5, F8. even at 10.3 you have the XS, Mig 21SMT, more f8. J7D isnt OP unless down tier
These poor ones keep getting ignored :(
You listed some the better 10.7s, all of which the J7D surpasses in effectiveness.
If you guys want to argue about wether it’s OP or not take it to the already existing thread, keep this to advice please
Its debatably the best 10.7 in general lobbies but putting it to 11.0 right now would be pay for pain… theres enough of that already.
Yeah sorry. So my advice would be not to use 11.0-10.7 jets at all. It will be mostly uptiers to 11.7 and the MiG-23 is very oppressive.
But the J7D is just a very easy plane to use, shoot the missiles at people who are busy with something else and possibly not paying attention to flare them. After that, try to third party others with your gun who are at slower speeds.
If you get behind someone, J7D is among the best mig21 FMs to dogfight with (J7E is ofc the best), so you can commit into most dogfights no problem, you even have better sustained turn rate than an F-5, so if you happen to be in a 1v1 at slower speeds, don’t worry and keep rating.
An F-8U2 can outdogfight you, but not by a huge margin and you can ditch out and reset at any time.
But don’t commit into dogfights when there are other enemies around, even if you feel like you are gaining the advantage. By being slow you will likely be the next one to get third-partyed.
J7D is just a very easy time, but you will suffer mostly because of BR compression and uptiers. Other 10.7s are in a much worse situation