As the game version is constantly updated, new aircraft are constantly added. China’s J-5 is already out of place at 9.3, with only two air-to-air and two low-yield bombs, and it can’t be mounted at the same time, not even rockets. He can hardly be seen in the game. It’s time to get him down to 9.0.
At least in RB mode it should be reduced by 9.0.
You mean the DPRK version of MiG-17?
For sure, we need more compression…
yes,In fact, it is MIG17, now RB is still placed in 9.3, so many adjustments have not been moved, has been unable to return to the game version.
2 Air To air at 9.3 is average, the MiG-17 flight model is fantastic. Stop complaining that the plane is balanced.
Air To air at 9.3 is average,If you had said this a year ago, I would have agreed, and now I would have opposed it, because now 9.0 is the average. Even a lot of 8.0s are now air-to-air.
2 8.0s have air to air missiles, those being Sea Hawks, of which their flight performance doesn’t hold a candle to you.
There are 27 ish planes at 9.3 at all. Only 3 of them have better missiles, Yak38s and Ayit. Both have worse flight performance. What we are talking about?
Compared to similar variants the Shenyang F-5 is the best variant, so it has to be the highest BR.
GJN’s mistake was to lower all the Sabres and Migs (except F-5). Instead of that the better way would be to decompress above 9.0.
With this perspective the F-5 hast the correct BR, all other variants should be return to there original BRs. So the only questionable plane would be the Lim-5P, because it’s better than Mig17 and worse than F-5.
The J-5 is the MiG 17F, which has improved performance over the MiG 17. But it’s not up to 9.3. All MiG 17s are up to 8.7. It’s too high to improve by 0.6. Let’s take a look at the other aircraft required for 9.0 and 9.3. USA F3H2, F100D, F11F1,F104A,German MiG 19s, Soviet MiG 19, MiG 21f13, Su-7b, MiG 21pfm. British lightning F6…Do you really think the J-5 can compete with them?
No, Mig17PF is same as Lim-5P. Shenyang F-5 (J-5) is the same flight model PLUS 2xPL-2. You can’t put a plane with better weaponery at the same BR.
Ok, especially for you, again:
F-5 has the correct BR.
All other Migs should be at their original BR again, so Mig 17 and Lim-5P at 9.0.
Above 9.0 we need decompression.
It makes zero sense to lower any plane’s BR, instead decompression above is the key to make it more playable for everyone.
The Mig 17 family today is a mess anyway, fair BRs would be:
Mig 17 / J-4 (no AB, no missiles) BR 0
Mig 17 AS (no AB, missiles) BR + .3
Lim-5P/Mig 17PF (AB, no missiles) BR + .3
Shenyang F-5 (AB, missiles) BR + .6
This shows, there is no room in the actual BR system for them. 8.7 for Mig 17 is to low, 9.7 for F-5 is too high.
Same problem with Yak 38 / Yak 38M, Sagittario 2 / Ariete.
This is just your personal ideal of super refinement rating, but the game does not do it. You can even see MiG 17, MiG 19 and MiG 21 in the same level in the game. In this case, do you think this refinement is necessary? In addition, in RB mode, there is almost no difference in the experience of your refinement. In AB mode, the J-5 is barely competent for 9.3. Then in RB mode, it is absolutely not competent, with very little gun ammunition and low-yield bombs.
i see this aircraft as equivalent to the TT german sabre mk6, they both very similar therefore i agree the F-5 shengyang should be moved down to 9.0
A10s, Q5s…
Do you have a clue what “decompression” means in the way how it should be done? You have to stretch a whole BR range in the way you are able to define BRs “finer”.
We are talking about ARB, so other game modes doesn’t matter.
Do you think this should be? I’m not. And after a proper decompression it wouldn’t be.
Think further into the future. Do you think GJN will stop putting new planes into the game in the future? Or do you think they go on, and put them into anyway, no matter how compressed the BR system is?
Ideal is good, but in many cases in the game in the case of little difference in performance, the game is not reflected. Game players mostly operate through the mouse and keyboard, and can not fully show the subtle differences, and most players can not distinguish between their performance differences, nor can they give full play to their performance advantages. So in many cases, the advantage of little difference does not feel improved for players. I translated it through translation software, and I don’t know if I can translate it accurately.